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hillbillyboy
Was In The Neighborhood
join:2003-05-16
Placerville, CA
|  [SRS] Network Strangeness
I wish they had an icon with a perplexed face on it, because that's mine now. I'm to the point where I'm able to get online and see my network every morning now, but not without jumping through some hoops.
Here's the scene: My Host and Client 1 both run XP Pro. Host has ICS enabled, and Client 1 communicates through a Linksys switch. After numerous difficulties two mornings ago, I ran the Network Setup Wizard again on both systems, and got everything talking (including Client 2, which is running ME and communicates through a Linksys WAP connected to the switch). The Setup Wizard set up a bridge on both Host and Client 1 between the Local Area Connection and 1394 on each system. Anyway, everything was working.
Then yesterday morning I fired up the Host and Client 1, but neither could see the other, and Client 1 couldn't get online, although nothing had changed. I thought the bridge on Client 1 may be the problem, so I deleted it, but I still couldn't see past the switch. I also set up fixed IPs on the Clients. Finally, I ran the Network Setup Wizard on the Host again, again creating a network setup disk that I intended to run on the clients as I had the previous time.
When I went to Client 1, though, before running the Network Setup Wizard, I checked its condition, and now it could see the network and was online(!?). At that point I decided to leave well-enough alone and didn't run the Wizard on Client 1.
This morning I fired up the Host, established connection, then went to Client 1, but the same thing occurred -- I couldn't see the network from Client 1 or get online. Thinking about what happened yesterday, I ran the Network Setup Wizard on the Host, but again I didn't need to on Client 1, because at that point everything was fine.
The only additional thing I've done now is to disable the 1394 connection on Client 1. Could that have been the problem?
One thing I should add: I've found that when I run the Network Setup Wizard on Client 1, it establishes a bridge between the Local and 1394 Connections. That's another reason I stopped running it on Client 1.
Anyway, this has me stymied, and I hate to think that I have to run the Network Setup Wizard on the Host as part of my routine each morning.
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DW SRS running 4.0.3.9 Svc Pack DAK403_P8, aimed at G4R. Host is 1.8MHz, 512MB RAM, XP Pro; Client 1 is 2.4MHz, 512MB RAM, XP Pro, Client 2 is 800MHz, 256MB RAM, WinME. Host has ICS turned on, & clients connect thru Linksys switch & WAP. | |
CM
Left Hip On Cattle
join:2002-04-15
Montana
| hillbillyboy,
I bought my wife a new computer for Christmas. It came with two adapters which I am unfamiliar with, and one of those is a 1394 adapter. I think it is for 'firewire' but I'm not sure.
What I am sure of is...we don't need it in our network. So, I disabled all adapters except the NIC for our LAN. If any of them are ever needed, or if I ever find out what they are for, they can always be 'enabled'.
As for your LAN problem immediately after boot-up, try booting your host last. I find this necessary ever since I disabled DHCP on the host and started using permanent IP addresses.
CM
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Earthlink SRS, G4R 970, XP Pro/SP1, 512MB SDRAM, ICS, w/1 XP Home/SP1 client, 4.0.3.9/P8, RSL 80, NIS on host & client | |
hillbillyboy
Was In The Neighborhood
join:2003-05-16
Placerville, CA | Well, that's something I haven't tried. I've wondered what the 1394 is for as well. I have disabled it, though. I'll try firing up the clients first next time, and we'll see how that works out. Thanks! | |
NathanSatMx5
join:2003-06-10
Springville, AL | IEEE 1394 is firewire  | |
hillbillyboy
Was In The Neighborhood
join:2003-05-16
Placerville, CA | If I remember correctly, if I disable the 1394 connection on the Host, then run the Network Wizard, it re-enables the 1394 and creates a bridge between that and the Local Connection. Weird stuff. | |
CM
Left Hip On Cattle
join:2002-04-15
Montana
| Disable your 1394 adapter and reboot. Then check to make sure the 1394 is still disabled. It should stay disabled forever...unless you change it.
THEN do whatever you need to with the Networking wizard. It should understand that the 1394 adapter is 'not required', and leave it alone.
CM
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Earthlink SRS, G4R 970, XP Pro/SP1, 512MB SDRAM, ICS, w/1 XP Home/SP1 client, 4.0.3.9/P8, RSL 80, NIS on host & client | |
hillbillyboy
Was In The Neighborhood
join:2003-05-16
Placerville, CA | Sounds like I shouldn't need any bridge on the Host period, particularly one involving that connection. Thanks for the help. | |
hillbillyboy
Was In The Neighborhood
join:2003-05-16
Placerville, CA
| reply to hillbillyboy
Well, this is getting stranger and stranger. I deleted the bridge on the Host, disabled the 1394 Connection, and rebooted. Upon bringing the system back, I wasn't seeing Client 1, and it wasn't seeing the Host or getting to the Net, although the Host was accessing the Net. Then I ran the Network Setup Wizard on the Host again, and get this: it again bridged the 1394 Connection and the Local Connection, even though the 1394 Connection shows as being disabled. Everything seems to be working now, though, the systems are seeing each other, and everything's accessing the Net, so I'll leave it alone till the next strangeness.
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DW SRS running 4.0.3.9 Svc Pack DAK403_P8, aimed at G4R. Host is 1.8MHz, 512MB RAM, XP Pro; Client 1 is 2.4MHz, 512MB RAM, XP Pro, Client 2 is 800MHz, 256MB RAM, WinME. Host has ICS turned on, & clients connect thru Linksys switch & WAP. | |
wpfranklin
Funny, It Worked Last Time
Premium
join:2002-11-13
Mattoon, IL
| reply to hillbillyboy
That 1394 connection, firewire, is a persistent pain. I don't understand why it won't stay disabled, though.
Do you have any firewire devices? I can't get rid of it completely because I have a firewire hard disk drive, but the network connection stays disabled.
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Bill | G4R 1370 | DW BE DAK4039_P14 | Host: Win XP Pro, 512MB | Proxy ON Port 83 | No AFD Tweak | WinRoute Pro 4.2.5 | |
hillbillyboy
Was In The Neighborhood
join:2003-05-16
Placerville, CA
| No, I don't have any firewire devices. As long as it works this way, consistently, I guess I should leave it alone. I'll boot up Client 1 first tomorrow AM, then the Host, and see if the network and Net access come up OK. If so, I'll probably just leave it all alone.
It does look strange, though, to look at Network Connections on the Host and see that 1394 is disabled yet bridged to the Local Connection, which is, of course, enabled. Oh, well ...
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DW SRS running 4.0.3.9 Svc Pack DAK403_P8, aimed at G4R. Host is 1.8MHz, 512MB RAM, XP Pro; Client 1 is 2.4MHz, 512MB RAM, XP Pro, Client 2 is 800MHz, 256MB RAM, WinME. Host has ICS turned on, & clients connect thru Linksys switch & WAP. | |
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