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dp
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Good for her...

I hope it passes.


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Any idea how many virtually unenforceable laws that achieve the square root of nothing are on the books in the Cities, States and countries of the world because someone thought like this person did that it needs legislation?

This is not something that needs legislation - it needs education. Don't give private info away if it's not needed.


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said by sbrook See Profile:
This is not something that needs legislation - it needs education. Don't give private info away if it's not needed.
I agree, legislation is not the answer but no amount of education is going to stop a malicious website from dumping stuff on your PC by just visiting the site.
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said by dp See Profile:
said by sbrook See Profile:
This is not something that needs legislation - it needs education. Don't give private info away if it's not needed.
I agree, legislation is not the answer but no amount of education is going to stop a malicious website from dumping stuff on your PC by just visiting the site.

Never seen a site do that.
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said by AmeritecTech See Profile:
said by dp See Profile:
said by sbrook See Profile:
This is not something that needs legislation - it needs education. Don't give private info away if it's not needed.
I agree, legislation is not the answer but no amount of education is going to stop a malicious website from dumping stuff on your PC by just visiting the site.

Never seen a site do that.

Just visiting a web site can sometimes result in a "drive-by download," meaning spyware is installed on the PC simply by clicking on a website. Tight security settings will cure this but we all no that not everyone follows this path.
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This is not something that needs legislation - it needs education. Don't give private info away if it's not needed.
If a program's setup utility slipstreams spyware into the install without notifying the end user, no amount of education will help. You can't stop what you can't perceive.

With notification prior to install, education at least has a fighting chance.
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said by AmeritecTech See Profile:
said by dp See Profile:
said by sbrook See Profile:
This is not something that needs legislation - it needs education. Don't give private info away if it's not needed.
I agree, legislation is not the answer but no amount of education is going to stop a malicious website from dumping stuff on your PC by just visiting the site.

Never seen a site do that.

Just visiting a web site can sometimes result in a "drive-by download," meaning spyware is installed on the PC simply by clicking on a website. Tight security settings will cure this but we all no that not everyone follows this path.

Could you provide an example?
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said by AmeritecTech See Profile:
Could you provide an example?

Not off the top of my head. I became aware of it when a poster here at the Security forum had it happen. It was some time ago and a quick search didn't turn up anything.
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Typically, drive by download refers to a site that asks you if you want to install something when you visit it. From CNET:

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Web surfers who thought online advertisements were becoming increasingly obtrusive may be dismayed by a new tactic: pop-up downloads.
In recent weeks, some software makers have enlisted Web site operators to entice their visitors to download software rather than simply to view some advertising. For example, when visiting a site a person may receive a pop-up box that appears as a security warning with the message: "Do you accept this download?" If the consumer clicks "Yes," an application is automatically installed.
»news.com.com/2100-1023-877568.html
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Thanks for the link, a good read. The following was taken from that article:

"A person should (be able to) request the download" if they want it, or decline it if they don't, he said. "It's the classic opt-in, opt-out debate."

In some cases, people are not even asked whether they want the software. It just installs on the hard drive--a particularly troublesome tactic that some have dubbed "drive-by download."
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Example of a "drive-by download"

Check this out...
»Who is Internet Washer Pro?


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Still have yet to see it.
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