reub2000
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join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL
| The isps need to block by default. The isps need to block certain ports by default. The avergae user doesn't know what a port is, and doesn't care that their computer is insecure.
And if you wanted to do something, or had a firewall yourself, you could call and have your isp remove the firewall.
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XSF
join:2001-03-25
Toronto, ON | Re: The isps need to block by default. O/Ses, particularly MS, should have Antivirus software installed by default. | |
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 | NaturlBrnklr
join:2002-03-19
My Place :)
| Re: The isps need to block by default. said by XSF  :
O/Ses, particularly MS, should have Antivirus software installed by default.
you do realize that this would very much make things a monopoly. It would be the IE fiasco all over again, however this time a company like McAfee or Norton, whoever would be left out in O/S incorporating virus scanning, have deeper pockets and would really feel the need to fight as they see their business dwindle. It is not Microsofts problem that users dont want to run/update virus scanners for whatever reason. In fact, this whole worm would never had begun had users ever bothered to update their copy of windows. The OS company can only put so much into the software before they start to squeeze out other companies that make the same software and are unhappy. I mean all the fuss over browsers - free software mind you- imagine what happens when software that costs money gets involved. | |
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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
| I disagree. ISPs shouldn't block ports unless a particular virus/worm is affecting their network's viability. In these cases, it should be a temporary block that's removed after the storm.
If ISP's start blocking known worm/virus ports, where does it end? They'll be constantly chasing new virus. Plus, if they become involved in preventing a virus from spreading, they may be partially liable or responsible if they don't stop future attacks. | |
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reub2000
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join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL
| Re: The isps need to block by default. I don't think the isp should be liable for virus attacks, but they could sheild n00bs. And if you use more than aim and e-mail, you could ask them to not block any ports.
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If ISP's start blocking known worm/virus ports, where does it end? They'll be constantly chasing new virus.
That's because there only blocking known viri under ur idea. | |
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reub2000
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join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL
| Re: The isps need to block by default. quote:
Firewalling individual users based on what they want becomes a problem administratively. No one wants to see 10,000 lines in there firewall configuration.
That is a problem. I guess the other option is to have oems install personal firewalls and virus scanners on their computers. Whatever the solution is, it has to be something that the average user doesn't know exists, but that a more advanced users can easily disable. | |
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| Stumbles
join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL
| said by keyboard5684 :
At some point people need to take responsibility for their selves and there actions (or inactions).
That is the truth.
said by keyboard5684 :
Automatic updates are an awesome future that makes it so simple to use.
Given the number of times Microsofts patches have, ummm, well hosed my system, automatic updates are not really the way to go. | |
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join:2001-08-01
Youngsville, PA
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| Re: The isps need to block by default. I have heard many friends say that they fear the updates.
I personally have never seen this happen, at least in the last year or so. I do remember back in the NT4.0 days with service packs toasting machines but I think Microsoft has done a pretty good job lately.
So you are toast if you do toast if you don't? I guess to me I would wan't to know about the updates but for the majority I think it is just better if it does it without saying a word. | |
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join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL | Re: The isps need to block by default. I prefer to know what the updates are before hand. | |
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skater29687
join:2003-06-30
Mesa, AZ
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