keyboard5684
join:2001-08-01
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| reply to reub2000
Re: The isps need to block by default.
People complain if ISPs block ports and complain if they don't?
Believe it or not when port 135 was blocked at our ISP people complained. They also complained when it was not blocked.
If port 80 was blocked (so you could not run servers) people go nuts. People also complain about the fact that it was not blocked when code red was out.
At some point people need to take responsibility for their selves and there actions (or inactions). An ISP that blocks ports in the end reduces overall network performance and the access-lists becomes a maintenance problem.
Firewalling individual users based on what they want becomes a problem administratively. No one wants to see 10,000 lines in there firewall configuration.
People were warned with over 3 weeks advance notice that this could be a problem. Automatic updates are an awesome future that makes it so simple to use.
People are also told about having a firewall, especially with broadband access. A firewall these days is cheap, easy to implement, and effective. $50 for a hardware router/firewall is less than a modem and easy to install.
If you buy a car and never take it to get its oil changed is it the dealer that owes you a new car? Cars now have a light that comes on to remind you to get the oil changed yet some people still ignore it and never get it done. |
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reub2000
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join:2001-12-28
Evanston, IL
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Firewalling individual users based on what they want becomes a problem administratively. No one wants to see 10,000 lines in there firewall configuration.
That is a problem. I guess the other option is to have oems install personal firewalls and virus scanners on their computers. Whatever the solution is, it has to be something that the average user doesn't know exists, but that a more advanced users can easily disable. |
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Stumbles
join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL
| reply to keyboard5684
said by keyboard5684  :
At some point people need to take responsibility for their selves and there actions (or inactions).
That is the truth.
said by keyboard5684 :
Automatic updates are an awesome future that makes it so simple to use.
Given the number of times Microsofts patches have, ummm, well hosed my system, automatic updates are not really the way to go. |
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keyboard5684
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Youngsville, PA
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| I have heard many friends say that they fear the updates.
I personally have never seen this happen, at least in the last year or so. I do remember back in the NT4.0 days with service packs toasting machines but I think Microsoft has done a pretty good job lately.
So you are toast if you do toast if you don't? I guess to me I would wan't to know about the updates but for the majority I think it is just better if it does it without saying a word. |
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Stumbles
join:2002-12-17
Port Saint Lucie, FL | I prefer to know what the updates are before hand. |
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skater29687
join:2003-06-30
Mesa, AZ
|  I definetely agree with that. my system was just hosed up by a linksys driver, that was some how downloaded to my system. I use a wireless nic to access the net, and I would lose my connection every 5-15 minutes. I finally had todo some detective work, goto the linksys site, and download the old drivers. windows update is a great thing, but all updates should be closely screened before downloaded.
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