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rradina
join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO
| Regulation Free VOIP Although it's futile, I do hope that VOIP remains free of regulation. What troubles me is that they are hinging their "not a phone company" status on the fact that one's voice is digitized into "data packets" and that they simply act as a router of these packets between two end points.
Don't the digital cellular networks do the same thing? Don't all of our voices at one point get digitized over the PSTN?
After reading Vonage's troubles in MN, I do have to agree that they don't operate any business in MN. They are simply a reseller of competitive local exchange carrier endpoints to the PSTN. They don't operate a switch in any state, as far as I know.
It will be interesting if the ILECs offer VOIP and seek regulatory freedom. Will we cry foul? | |
|  clecrupt9
join:2002-01-22
GA
| Re: Regulation Free VOIP said by rradina  :
Don't the digital cellular networks do the same thing? Don't all of our voices at one point get digitized over the PSTN?
Yes they do.
I agree with you, what is getting Vonage is that they offer residential users dialtone and a PSTN number that a standard telephone uses. Its pure BS to say this isnt telecommunications service.
MN said they didnt care what the technology behind this was, you and the callee used a telephone so......its telecommunications. I see most people seeing this way. In addition in order to provide dialtone in most states you must be certified by the State, even if you dont own a switch. Because VoIP is information service, these rules dont apply.
Now I am all for VoIP, but they cant expect to always not have to play by certain rules. This will be the subject of lots of debate, not just for Vonage but for telephony as a whole. | |
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murdok6100
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join:2002-06-20
| Re: Regulation Free VOIP said by clecrupt9 :
said by rradina :
Don't the digital cellular networks do the same thing? Don't all of our voices at one point get digitized over the PSTN?
Yes they do.
I agree with you, what is getting Vonage is that they offer residential users dialtone and a PSTN number that a standard telephone uses. Its pure BS to say this isnt telecommunications service.
MN said they didnt care what the technology behind this was, you and the callee used a telephone so......its telecommunications. I see most people seeing this way. In addition in order to provide dialtone in most states you must be certified by the State, even if you dont own a switch. Because VoIP is information service, these rules dont apply.
Now I am all for VoIP, but they cant expect to always not have to play by certain rules. This will be the subject of lots of debate, not just for Vonage but for telephony as a whole.
Bull$hit -
So next time I make an MPG message for my mommy and send it VIA email it should be regulated?
What of video-teleconfrencing?
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| | | clecrupt9
join:2002-01-22
GA
| Re: Regulation Free VOIP said by murdok6100 :
said by clecrupt9 :
Bull$hit -
So next time I make an MPG message for my mommy and send it VIA email it should be regulated?
What of video-teleconfrencing?
Murdok610
Email, teleconferencing, video conferencing, arent provided as replacement of your landline. You can't lump all voip into one category, neither can the regulators.
The problem is that hybrid IP providers are 50% at least just like the telephone company. You use a standard telephone, you get standard dialtone, get a standard 164 address(phone number), and your calls route to and through the PSTN, unless its CPE to CPE.
People arent stupid, what I have described is telecommunications, be it an advanced version or not.
Also with email, messenger, ect you arent using a telephone or telephone numbers. The funny thing is that the only reason Vonage and the others use telephone numbers is that we are all so used to them, most people wouldnt use a devise for talking unless it has a key pad. SIP(the protocol of choice) will allow you to dial by something similar to an email address. If you dialed by an address it would be even harder to regulate that, as it looks less like telecommunications.
Weather these companies that provide that are to be certified as competitive exchanges, I dont know. But what broadband phone is and Free world dialup, or Net2phone calling card are, is three different things. I dont think pure VoIP will get regulated, but hybrid might. Even if it does become regulated, it doesnt mean the end of the low costs calling world.
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