kg4evv
Kg4evv
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join:2002-02-18
Fairdale, KY
| reply to zman23
Re: Insight AUP Violation []
You're going to leave Insight simply because you didn't want to comply with their ToS agreement? Sorry to see you go, but ya' gotta look out for number 1 right?
It still boggles my mind.
Anyway...
I believe, if I heard correctly from some contacts of mine, that over 1000+ of these letters had been sent out. Anyone with an open port, AT&T apparently views a server as a server as a server. Regardless of how "legal" or "innocent" the server may be. However the ToS and Eula which everyone agreed to was listed on the InsightBB Software when you installed. If you didn't use the software the information is also available on the InsightBB.Com website here. »www.insightbb.com/terms_conditio···e_policy
And states
quote:
xiii. run programs or servers from the Premises that provide network content or any other services to others. Examples of prohibited programs include, but are not limited to, mail, ftp, http, game, newsgroup, proxy, IRC servers and multi-user interactive forums;
Of course some people chose not to investigate the legal side of things like this, they just jump in and do it and then get mad when they're told they can't. It's amazing.
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IGGY
No Guru Just Here To Help
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join:2001-03-30
Chatham, IL
| Yet there are exceptions to these rules or at least stuff that is overlooked. Game servers have said to be ok in the past. It seems this user was told other types of activity we're ok - even though if you take the TOS at face value they clearly would be violations. It's silly that I can't turn on an ftp to let a friend have private legal content or a file I have that they want etc ( nothing illegal ) without having to worry about losing my account. As I've said many times a user should be able to what they want with the bandwidth they're paying for - as long as everything is on the up and up. As long as the connection isn't being used to host a website or 24/7 all year we never close ftp or server then some activities looked at as bad should be allowed. If Insight has problems with some users activities then maybe it's time to do like @Home did and other ISP currently do and offer business class service to all it's user ( if the user upgrades and pays for the service of course). Not just in certain cities either. From what I've read current business class service seems to have some use limits that aren't going to meet a business users needs. It really is time to rethink the current policies and offerings in my opinion. You see that you have customers that have certain needs and wants. It's clearly been shown some users past and present have left because of such restrictions. It's truly time to develop a business model across the board that reflects all customers wants and needs. This isn't the 1st time this has come up in this forum.
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usk546
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join:2003-02-19
Nicholasville, KY
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IGGY
No Guru Just Here To Help
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join:2001-03-30
Chatham, IL
| Which I clearly pointed out if you read my post. Not trying to a pain here. But I'm aware of the fact they offer a business class service.
"Not just in certain cities either. From what I've read current business class service seems to have some use limits that aren't going to meet a business users needs. It really is time to rethink the current policies and offerings in my opinion."
So let me be specific here. Offer a business class service in cities other than a select few in Kentucky and Indiana. And when offering said service - give the business class customer the options they want and can get from other competing companies.
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