Bichon MVM join:2002-10-10 Freehold, NJ |
Bichon
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2003-Aug-25 1:15 am
OOL article in "2600" magazineWhile on vacation last week, I picked up the Summer 2003 issue of 2600 magazine from Barnes and Noble. In the issue is an article titled "Optimum Online and You". The article is peppered with inaccuracies, and is mostly a big complaint piece about OOL policies, from bitching about the "You may be running a server from your computer and not even know it" email that OOL sent, complaints about port blocking, and the ever popular "You pay for your allotted bandwidth and, as long as you don't uncap your modem, you should be allowed to do whatever you wish" argument. The OOL whiners will love the piece; for the rest of us, don't waste the $5.50. |
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plat2on1 join:2002-08-21 Hopewell Junction, NY |
said by Bichon: While on vacation last week, I picked up the Summer 2003 issue of 2600 magazine from Barnes and Noble. In the issue is an article titled "Optimum Online and You". The article is peppered with inaccuracies, and is mostly a big complaint piece about OOL policies, from bitching about the "You may be running a server from your computer and not even know it" email that OOL sent, complaints about port blocking, and the ever popular "You pay for your allotted bandwidth and, as long as you don't uncap your modem, you should be allowed to do whatever you wish" argument. The OOL whiners will love the piece; for the rest of us, don't waste the $5.50.
i'v seen that little thing before, a friend showed it to me. i just browsed through it and laughed. buncha wanabe hackers who have no clue what they are talking about. also have some strange obsession with phone booths... |
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What would you expect from a magazine devoted to crackinger, I mean hacking or something? Still Bichon, you say it like these complaints based on inaccurate facts mitigate more legitimate ones; like the infamous Security Warning: You may be running a server from your computer and not even know it. That was a contrived piece of communication as was reported in more mainstream media. Also, your lumping together all critical or dissatisfied customers under the label OOL whiners is really no better than others here who have called happy OOL customers Cablevision apologists or shillWhiner or shill, not much of a choice as far as name calling goes. |
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QumahlinNever Enough Time MVM join:2001-10-05 united state |
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said by plat2on1:
said by Bichon: While on vacation last week, I picked up the Summer 2003 issue of 2600 magazine from Barnes and Noble. In the issue is an article titled "Optimum Online and You". The article is peppered with inaccuracies, and is mostly a big complaint piece about OOL policies, from bitching about the "You may be running a server from your computer and not even know it" email that OOL sent, complaints about port blocking, and the ever popular "You pay for your allotted bandwidth and, as long as you don't uncap your modem, you should be allowed to do whatever you wish" argument. The OOL whiners will love the piece; for the rest of us, don't waste the $5.50.
i'v seen that little thing before, a friend showed it to me. i just browsed through it and laughed. buncha wanabe hackers who have no clue what they are talking about. also have some strange obsession with phone booths...
2600 is none of the above, I've been reading it for AGES, yes some of the articles they print have some inaccuracies/whinyness, but alot of the articles are SUBMISSIONS they are not from the regular 2600 writers/staff 2600 is a great publication and it really varies quarter to quarter, but overall it has more good then bad. And considering you will find that anytime the "fan mail" section has people asking how to exploit such and such they get flamed for wanting to be hackers I find it hard to apply your logic that everyone on the 2600 staff is a "wannabee" hacker |
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drakeBack to back MVM join:2002-06-10 Bridgeport, CT |
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said by Bichon: While on vacation last week, I picked up the Summer 2003 issue of 2600 magazine from Barnes and Noble. In the issue is an article titled "Optimum Online and You". The article is peppered with inaccuracies, and is mostly a big complaint piece about OOL policies, from bitching about the "You may be running a server from your computer and not even know it" email that OOL sent, complaints about port blocking, and the ever popular "You pay for your allotted bandwidth and, as long as you don't uncap your modem, you should be allowed to do whatever you wish" argument. The OOL whiners will love the piece; for the rest of us, don't waste the $5.50.
Didn't OOL block port 80 to prevent subscribers from running a server? But you get what you pay for at those speeds. |
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GeekNJ Premium Member join:2000-09-23 Waldwick, NJ |
GeekNJ
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2003-Aug-26 12:12 pm
said by drake: Didn't OOL block port 80 to prevent subscribers from running a server? But you get what you pay for at those speeds.
Actually, it was Code Red/Nimda worms that were running rampant that caused OOL to initially block port 80. |
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drakeBack to back MVM join:2002-06-10 Bridgeport, CT |
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2003-Aug-26 12:16 pm
said by GeekNJ:
said by drake: Didn't OOL block port 80 to prevent subscribers from running a server? But you get what you pay for at those speeds.
Actually, it was Code Red/Nimda worms that were running rampant that caused OOL to initially block port 80.
Ah! Ok..I thought it was all because of Personal Servers sucking up the bandwidth and what not. |
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said by GeekNJ:
said by drake: Didn't OOL block port 80 to prevent subscribers from running a server? But you get what you pay for at those speeds.
Actually, it was Code Red/Nimda worms that were running rampant that caused OOL to initially block port 80.
Well, they only blocked the port on some areas...mine is blocked...however a friend of mine who lives in Central Jersey and has OOL has his open.... That's not exactly fair is it? |
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Im more concerned that Cablevision doesn't publish which ports they block (and where) which then makes an informed decision by the consumer or comparison with other services all the more harderand by design perhaps. |
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said by StonesDude: Well, they only blocked the port on some areas...mine is blocked...however a friend of mine who lives in Central Jersey and has OOL has his open.... That's not exactly fair is it?
They blocked the port in most areas. It could be a newer area that they missed putting the block on, or opened the block because a BOOL user is on that node and they opened up 80 for them. What do you need it for? For are numerous ways to work around a port 80 block if you need to. |
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said by Qumahlin:
said by plat2on1:
said by Bichon: While on vacation last week, I picked up the Summer 2003 issue of 2600 magazine from Barnes and Noble. In the issue is an article titled "Optimum Online and You". The article is peppered with inaccuracies, and is mostly a big complaint piece about OOL policies, from bitching about the "You may be running a server from your computer and not even know it" email that OOL sent, complaints about port blocking, and the ever popular "You pay for your allotted bandwidth and, as long as you don't uncap your modem, you should be allowed to do whatever you wish" argument. The OOL whiners will love the piece; for the rest of us, don't waste the $5.50.
i'v seen that little thing before, a friend showed it to me. i just browsed through it and laughed. buncha wanabe hackers who have no clue what they are talking about. also have some strange obsession with phone booths...
2600 is none of the above, I've been reading it for AGES, yes some of the articles they print have some inaccuracies/whinyness, but alot of the articles are SUBMISSIONS they are not from the regular 2600 writers/staff
2600 is a great publication and it really varies quarter to quarter, but overall it has more good then bad.
And considering you will find that anytime the "fan mail" section has people asking how to exploit such and such they get flamed for wanting to be hackers I find it hard to apply your logic that everyone on the 2600 staff is a "wannabee" hacker
Agreed, I too have been reading 2600 for ages, I also attend the monthly meetings in my area. It's about technology, and how to play with it. While some articles in the magazine are not up to par, many of the people associated with the publication are extremely talented. -b |
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Bichon
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2003-Aug-26 1:09 pm
said by bsd9:
Agreed, I too have been reading 2600 for ages, I also attend the monthly meetings in my area. It's about technology, and how to play with it. While some articles in the magazine are not up to par, many of the people associated with the publication are extremely talented.
-b
Maybe, but there wasn't much evidence of it in the issue (summer 2003) I picked up. A decade ago, I enjoyed reading about the activities of phreakers like "Captain Crunch", not because I wanted to steal phone service and make free calls, but to learn about the technology behind the public phone network. In the current issue of 2600, there is an article about "red boxes" that those phreakers used to employ. Summary of the article: They don't work anymore, but if you call the operator with one and sound desperate enough, they'll often put through the call anyway. Just how is that supposed to help me learn about the technology? |
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I thought social engineering was a part of technology, so those curious about or even those employed to counter it might well find such an article interesting. I dont knowI guess Id have to spend the $5.50 and read it for myself. |
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Why is it that if people complain about their rates going up or getting BS e-mails telling them they are running servers when they are NOT, you label them as "whiners"?
So one should bow down to almighty OOL and pay whatever the hell they want you to pay, and use your connection the way THEY want you to. Just shut up and pay, huh?
Give me a break. |
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