Geoducky
@attbi.com
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Re: DIE!
Actually I wonder why more people don't refer spammers to the FBI... I bet 99% of spammers have commited one or more of:
credit card fraud
tax fraud
mail fraud
phone fraud
identity theft
falsification of internet domain records (they ALL do this)
I had my credit card number stolen once, and a spammer used it to register several domain names and setup web hosting accounts.
I don't even see why services like Osirusoft or SPEWS exist. The typical spammer sets up valid ISP accounts (with false personal information), spams like hell for a couple weeks (voilating ToS), and moves on to the next ISP. Even if the ISP intends NOT to harbour spammers, they can be repeatedly blacklisted. |
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Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
| cause their outside the US, we should find them and use our missles on them rather then stuff in the middle east. spammers are a threat to national security and our economy if they can overwelm corperate mail servers with spam.
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Salamander
join:2002-10-15
CH
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said by Geoducky:
Actually I wonder why more people don't refer spammers to the FBI... I bet 99% of spammers have commited one or more of:
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Because damages less than 50KUS per instance doesn't show on their radar screen (you are not worth their time).
said by Geoducky:
I don't even see why services like Osirusoft or SPEWS exist. The typical spammer sets up valid ISP accounts (with false personal information), spams like hell for a couple weeks (voilating ToS), and moves on to the next ISP. Even if the ISP intends NOT to harbour spammers, they can be repeatedly blacklisted.
This has been my chief complaint against blacklists for ages. They nail too many innocents. |
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Googled
Yay, I have FIOS
join:2001-08-13
Orchard Park, NY
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| reply to Geoducky
said by Geoducky:
Actually I wonder why more people don't refer spammers to the FBI... I bet 99% of spammers have commited one or more of:
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falsification of internet domain records (they ALL do this)
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Even SPEWS is guilty of that one.
I for one think blacklists are a good idea, but really dislike SPEWS. I'm the webmaster of a server which was caught in the collateral damage caused by the aggressive blacklisting that SPEWS provides. At one point they had all the subnets of the hosting provider that I am hosted at blacklisted. That's thousands of servers blacklisted, all because one person decided to send spam. All the other blacklists simply listed the one IP of the offending server, but not SPEWS they kicked it up a notch and blocked everything with total disregard to the innocent.
It has since been an uphill battle for my provider to try and get off their blacklist. SPEWS has no contact information other than to post to news.admin.net-abuse newsgroup and provide evidence that the spammer has been shut down. At that point all you can do is hope that the right people will see it and have pity on you. All the while SPEWS continued to happily blacklist thousands of innocent servers. |
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