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JakCrow

join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
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reply to Krispy
Re: Criminal Matter

said by Krispy See Profile:
An attack of this magnitude should DEFINITELY be a criminal matter and be investigated by the authorities. Public awareness of this issue is tantamount if we are to stop this from happening again. People need to understand how this temp victory to the spammers affects all of us.
Eh hem. Osirusoft is run off someone's DSL line. The "magnitude" of this attack could be 2 compromised Windows boxes. WOW,


Krispy
Premium,VIP
join:2001-12-11
the stix

said by JakCrow:
Eh hem. Osirusoft is run off someone's DSL line. The "magnitude" of this attack could be 2 compromised Windows boxes. WOW,
The attack went out for well over a month and the Osirusoft list helped many organizations (ie: my company) filter LOTS of unnecessary mail on a daily basis, now we have to deal with increased processing loads and customer complaints because most of the mail that was previously filtered by Osirusoft is now getting through....that costs us real money as it has for many others I would imagine.


JakCrow

join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
·DSL EXTREME


edited
said by Krispy See Profile:
The attack went out for well over a month and the Osirusoft list helped many organizations (ie: my company) filter LOTS of unnecessary mail on a daily basis, now we have to deal with increased processing loads and customer complaints because most of the mail that was previously filtered by Osirusoft is now getting through....that costs us real money as it has for many others I would imagine.
The "attack" against Joe could have simply come from 2 or 3 compromised Windows boxes sitting on a cable modem somewhere. No one in their right mind would run a prime DOS target like a blocklist off a DSL line.

Also, it's your own damn fault for going with a blocklist run by unprofessionals with large egos and no accountability. I know plenty of companies that deal with spam quite effectively without spews. I have no sympathy for you or your "real money".
[text was edited by author 2003-08-29 04:15:57]


Krispy
Premium,VIP
join:2001-12-11
the stix

It was far more then 2-3 machines, anyway if you are attempting to defend DoS attacks based on size you've lost quite a bit of credibility in my eyes already. And btw, spews and osirusoft are two different lists, we didn't reject mail based on spews, we rejected mail based on queries to relays.osirusoft.com and that was a very respectable list.

Regardless, I've wasted too much time reading your uninformed blather so troll on.


JakCrow

join:2001-12-06
Palo Alto, CA
·DSL EXTREME

said by Krispy See Profile:
It was far more then 2-3 machines, anyway if you are attempting to defend DoS attacks based on size you've lost quite a bit of credibility in my eyes already. And btw, spews and osirusoft are two different lists, we didn't reject mail based on spews, we rejected mail based on queries to relays.osirusoft.com and that was a very respectable list.

Point me to where I was defending a DoS. You can't. I merely and quite accurately pointed out that there wasn't an attack some kind of massive magnitude that you seemed to think it was. So much for -your- credibility. If you weren't using the spews zones he was publishing, you must have been using his out of date lists. The DoS was probably just a convenient out for him since he was so far behind at this point and it probably wasn't worth the effort.

said by Krispy See Profile:

Regardless, I've wasted too much time reading your uninformed blather so troll on.
Good. Go back to nanae with the rest of the kooks.
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