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BlitzenZeus
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[Kerio] 4x Turn this back into a real rule based firewall!

Simple answer:
-Disable predefined network settings
-Remove all the programs in the network settings possible, and set the rest to 'ask' for all settings.
-Disable the IDS.
Now your rules control all the traffic in the firewall.

Personally I don't like how they superimposed the simple settings to take over the advanced settings, and I'm finding many of their simple/predefined settings will be highly redundant/conflicting when used in any advanced configuration. The simple settings also come first, remember that as it will make any advanced configurations useless when the simple setting is still enabled.

Personally I wish they just would have given us two options Simple(newbie), and Advanced so the people who can't stand the simple options don't even have to see it.
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[text was edited by author 2003-08-29 21:26:33]

mlr1m

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are there any advantages to using the new Kerio over 2.15 and System Security Monitor?
Thanks Michael


BlitzenZeus
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Eh..... If you want to register the program after thirty days it does have basic web filtering if you care about it even though there is free options like proxomitron, but I don't see any real advantages.

I dub this version ZArio!
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mlr1m

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Thanks..im using Proxomitron SSM and kerio 2.15..so im covered i guess. Those together seem to use less resources anyway. Aslong as security is ok
Thanks Michael


madirish
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reply to BlitzenZeus
Re: [Kerio] 4x Turn this back into a real rule bas

Got network security down to 5 items all set to ask.Predifined network settings-disabled. only loopback is ticked in trusted area(can't do anything else with it).IDS disabled.

I do remember in another thread that one of the developers said that loopback will be taken out of the trusted area all together.I agree with BZ that it is very IMPORTANT to read the help files with this puppy.


veryDisappointed



Well SSM is problematic on my system, so the app control part of kerio 4 is useful, other then that it sucks badly. Horrible interface.

Did you notice that to create an advanced rule from a dialog box warning is very troublesome (3 clicks compared to 1) if you want to input the remote ip address too?

ahubbard

join:2001-06-22
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reply to BlitzenZeus
When I originally installed it, I had it import my rule set from 2.1.5. Now I've removed kpf thinking I should start from scratch since I can't get online when using it...

However, it automatically picks up my old rule set, even though I didn't import or anything. Can't figure out where it goes that information from?

Also, if I move a rule from trusted to default and I still can't get online. Can't figure out exactly which 'feature' is blocking all communications. (stop all traffic is NOT enabled)


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Then this is a problem your configuration, I did exactly what I said above, and my configuration is working as it should, at least as much as this buggy version will allow.

If you don't removed the old files before you reinstall, it will pickup the old configuration. Just delete all your settings, and start over again if your not going to reinstall. If you have any more problems with your configuration start a new thread please. Remember, this is BETA quality software, and many with the simple configurations being redundant/conflicting with the advanced settings, it will cause problems. Its all in your rules(and settings)...
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[text was edited by author 2003-08-31 14:56:32]

ahubbard

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reply to BlitzenZeus
I'll start a new thread, but in »[Kerio] Release of Kerio Personal Firewall 4.0.2 someone asked if it was a final ver (non-beta) and you said yes...


BlitzenZeus
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Your changing the subject. I won't defend Kerio's horrible actions to call it a final release, but with the number of problems still in the software its still beta quality software. They still haven't fixed bugs I reported for RC3, and there are more new bugs since RC3. There is a reason they are not offering help on the website, even when they call it final release. They want to make money on a sub-par product, that is the only reason.
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Cajun Man
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reply to BlitzenZeus
Is there any chance of getting some screenshots of exactly how to do the list you made in 4.0.2? I think I figured out how to disable the IDS, and I think I disabled the predefined network settings.

But was hoping to see screenshots of all three of the tips you posted to make sure I'm doing it right.

And I've noticed one screen where I can uncheck it and it will stay unchecked until I re-boot.

Can't remember off hand, I'm in Slackware Linux right now. But will be back in Windows after a while.

I thought I'd give 4.0.2 a try, but I have a feeling I'll go back to 2.1.5. But I just wanted to see how 4 works.
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BlitzenZeus
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The first image shows the programs you can't remove.

Since you want to try out 4.0.2 I suggest you really read through the entire help file. Many things have changed since 2x.
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Cajun Man
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Click for full size
Ok, I'll be reading it.

What about this pic, should I have it unchecked, or does it need to be checked?
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BlitzenZeus
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That is the system security, and that has nothing to do with the main point in this thread. So I will not answer your question here other than the system security should be enabled.

You should start a new thread for help with general configurations if you don't understand the program after you read the help file.
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Cajun Man
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said by BlitzenZeus See Profile:
That is the system security, and that has nothing to do with the main point in this thread. So I will not answer your question here other than the system security should be enabled.

You should start a new thread for help with general configurations if you don't understand the program after you read the help file.

Ok... you won't answer it, but you do anyway? Thanks. Was just a simple yes or no which you did say yes to, although a bit differently.

I have read up on it now, and found out some more things about it. But I still like 2.1.5 better. Which I'll probably go back to when I get done testing.

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