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|  [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion?
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Mikofox
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| said by LINCSAT  :
I hope direcway or var/lincsat will have a upgrade trade in option. Will this be the new unit that will be shipped with all new kits.
Sitting on needles, eh?
We all hope to see it soon here in Canada of course. But if it's handled like the DW4020, they (LinCsat) may still insist on testing the unit, by the time the first DW6000 show up on eBay. Sorry about the sarcasm, but there is a DW4020 on eBay right now and still not much of a sales pitch for it on the LinCsat website.
Which is good in a way. The lack of information has kept me from wasting my money on a Windows machine or the 'DW4020 Tinkerjob', as neither was an acceptable solution, for me anyway.
I bet a lot more of the 4020 units will go cheap on eBay, after people see the DW6000 released.
So when it shows up in the States, I hope they will have a good supply and that it's truly plug & play.
Yes I'm on needles also and very close to offering a REWARD for the first unit north of 60° or even the border!
Keep the (gold)pan, just sell me the modem!
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 | larry12
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| Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? My angle is as follows:
The bleeding edge technology is getting cheaper and cheaper, we have DirecPC, One way satellite systems, Direcway, Two way satellite systems (DW3000, DW4000, DW4020) and soon DW6000.
This is great news for those who want a less cost solution for their broadband woes. Amen
Again the consumer must be knowledgeable on what they buy, but in the long run this technology got cheaper.
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| Here is a pic of the back, if you have any questions i can scroll through the training manual on it and see if i can answer them.
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Mikofox
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| Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? David,
The post above yours shows the DW6000 from the front, right or am I wrong?
Or does the DW6040 look the same as the DW6000?
Just wonder if someone's mistaken, with the pix title.
The other thing. The moderators seem to be quite on edge about someone breaking the Beta Test NDA, understandably.
I'd love to hear more, but don't want the topics locked, if someone asks the wrong question.
My question to you would be, whether the DW6000 is truly Plug & Play. If it were, and if it came available as a package only from DW in the States, I'd like to get one, even if that means wasting the dish.
I am set up with the DW4000 and my 'dream come true' would be a simple exchange of the modem.
So my main question is, if this can be done without installing anything into the DW6000 from a Windows PC, or the re-commission thing.
I think the exact install procedure would interest the folks around here.
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|  Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion?
Problem is folks, system will not be commissioned on satellite you're currently pointed to. New SBC will go onto G3C(95w). You'll need a repoint/XP(install). | |
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| Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? do you actually have hard information that states only for g3c for the 6000. i have not seen anything like this. none of the dw6000 online training docs said that it was restricted to g3c. installers are not going to be carrying dw 4000's to use if they need to commission on g11 or g4r or satmex5. and there are shadow states in the US that default now to g11 instead of g3c | |
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join:2003-09-28
Port Charlotte, FL | DW6000 needed How is the Dw6000 working out so far.
What are the up and down speeds.
Can you point me to where I can get one
Thanks Email me @skywebjm@yahoo.com | |
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| They are the same.
This shouldn't be locked, because i am not under the beta testing. My info come from the direcway training website.
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Orleans, ON | Hear that DW 6000 only available from New National Distributor Galaxy Broadband. Sounds great- don't know if Lincsat or C-COM will have it- its on G3R | |
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| Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade said by unplugme :
Hear that DW 6000 only available from New National Distributor Galaxy Broadband. Sounds great- don't know if Lincsat or C-COM will have it- its on G3R
Don't count on any such limitations. Either sources or satellites.
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| Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? First part may have some truth to it, second is a pile of moose droppings!
Let's don't post these rumors, please!
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| Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? Mikofox- there is only one active gateway for the DW6000 at the moment- on G3R. They are bringing up G4R but I was told that it will not be available on G11 in the near future- same as the DW4020 is not available on G11- overcrowded and little or no space to grow. Not rumour those are facts told to me by Direcway and DirecTV folks in US. I am also told that there is no active upgrade program but I am sure that will change fast enough- there are still lots of markets for used DW4000 modems.
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| Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? said by unplugme :
...same as the DW4020 is not available on G11- overcrowded and little or no space to grow. Not rumour those are facts told to me by Direcway and DirecTV folks in US....
Sorry, don't buy it!
Spoke to LinCsat the other day and the DW4020 is available on G11 for some time now. Installers, correct me if I am wrong.
I would expect the same to be true for the DW6000. Since the new modem is going to replace both the DW4000 and DW4020 after stock of these run out, one would assume it will be available on all three DW satellites.
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Mikofox
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| said by unplugme :
...same as the DW4020 is not available on G11- overcrowded and little or no space to grow. Not rumour those are facts told to me by Direcway and DirecTV folks
Research, research, research!
»DW4020 and G11 a reality....
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| Re: [SRS] DW6000 is Fantastic!
Canada will have product by mid october. Just attended a training session on Installation- fantastic!
Confirmed that Canada installs will be on G3R for balance on 2003- no idea about US- kiss the 4000 good-bye this will be what everyone wants. has a built in modem 56 K if satellite signal fails, software on board- can be pre commissioned. No phone line for commissioning etc.Available in .74 and .98 models- suggested .98 for SOHO market.A Real Winner
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|  Re: [SRS] DW6000 is Fantastic!
said by unplugme :
Confirmed that Canada installs will be on G3R for balance on 2003- no idea about US- kiss the 4000 good-bye this will be what everyone wants. A Real Winner
If it's true what you are saying, then it will be a bummer for all who are not on G3R already, and may not be able to repoint.
I cut down half of the forest around here to get on G11 and if I have to do all this repointing s... again, it would tick me right off.
Also heard that new outdoor hardware is required, which would make this modem less attractive to me than the DW4020.
One would think they could produce a modem (pre-programmed if need be) to just replace the DW4000, no matter which satellite it is pointed to.
My enthusiasm about it is shrinking by the day.
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| Re: [SRS] DW6000 is Fantastic! Gentlemen- eventually the DW6000 will be available on all birds but not now. In the case of the 4020 it only became available on G11 6 months after G4R and Sat Mex5 . Each satellite requires Hughes to install a gateway that supports the equipment. There will be an upgrade program for the DW4000 but I don't think you will see it till late first quarter next year. As far a changing equipment the transmitter on new units is different as it is set up for the eventual launch of a dual in-route-256K burstable- (2-3- months) but you will need a .98M dish to support dual in-route-same as 4020.
Clearly everyone will get to upgrade over a 12 month time frame but those who want it now will have to set up on G3R- no problem with footprint other than northern Canada- slightly bigger dishes.
No confrontation-just real information
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Actually Modem (VADB) is only available for enterprise customers as a backup and the new satellite being used is G3C (same place as G3R) | |
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| Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade said by unplugme :
Hey Pet Dude- In Canada there is only one gateway available on G3R
Through which VAR if I may ask?
Is this a restriction from the VAR or Hughes?
Also does it apply to upgrades? Maybe you should have asked them, what's happening with existing DW4000 customers.
Technically speaking, the unit must surely work on the other satellites too.
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| Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade Right now it means repointing the dish.
The existing DW4000 users will get an upgrade but the dude from Hughes said early next year- for right now. any certified installer can upgrade by the online certifiaction process- Where are you located- i will send you a Var contact or I can sign you up. send me an email link
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Ironton, MO | Did anyone notice that they are only saying that you will get around 56K upload with the 6000 and up to 500K download they have backed away from the 128K that they had on the 4000 | |
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Snow Hill, NC | Looks like the sloband modems we have at work | |
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Mikofox
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| Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? said by Rfsjr2 :
The DIRECWAY System with the DW6000 modem retails for $599.98 (Includes dish, modem and standard installation), and you pay the regular service monthly rate (currently $59.99 per month).
Sounds pretty fair to me. I just might buy a whole new package...NOT! 
Ditto That!
Someone just put down $685 on eBay for used DW4020 modems.
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| Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade said by Rfsjr2 :
Yes, only for the DIRECWAY System hardware. The DIRECWAY System with the DW6000 modem retails for $599.98 (Includes dish, modem and standard installation), and you pay the regular service monthly rate (currently $59.99 per month).
I paid $650 to get DirecwWay (modems, dish, installation). So this would seem to imply that they're pricing it the same as the current DW4000 offering?
But what I want to know is what will the DW6000 cost as a retrofit. And will they require a professional install.
So far, the DW6000 looks like the product they should have built in the beginning. It's encouraging. Maybe Hughes finally has someone on staff that has seen a network before.
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South Gillies, ON | Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? I was told around Christmas of this year and that was from a lincsat rep and they a fairly hight up the food chain!!!!!!!!!! | |
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| "i heard" on the phone with a tech from our distributor and "he says" that they were commissioned to G4r with DW6000 and did a move to satmex 5, "he also said" that his speed tests never fell below 250 upload, i'll believe this when I see it
i don't believe hughes will make the mistake of not making the 6000 available on all the birds as it looks like they are setting it up to be the modem of the future
i mean it's a dream come true for tech support people, installers, dealers, and even the end user
my only negative comment on the 6000 is that it's it all in one piece meaning if the transmit side fries you'll have to wait to receive a whole new modem in the mail cuz your installer can't just hot swap the necessary piece
the Satellite Based Commissioning system is a plus for us installers as you don't need the phone anymore you do it right over your crosspoled SRS system
i am patiently awaiting the 6000, our distributor says monday.....
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North Vernon, IN | I am a directway want to be . I called directway and they told me it would be 1-2 weeks before the 6000 would before I would be able to order it. | |
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join:2002-06-05
Melfa, VA
| It seems to me that the dw6000 would work on linux out of the box. If all the software is in the DW box, you should be able to hook it up to just about anything. That does not mean you could tech support for it, not that you would need it.
I would imagine that it would reduce a lot of technical support calls. Heck they should probably just about give it away.
Uh...does this mean load balancing on the fly with the elimination of phone web setup?
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| Upon reflection, I do not wish to post. Take me back!
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Sterlington, LA | $600? Is that for the dish and modem, or just the modem?
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| Since the software is on the modem itself, am I correct in thinking that this will be a non-tweakable setup? Will the RWIN and other DrTcp settings on a computer actually be used by the modem? What about the max connections setting in the registry? PetDude?
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| Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? said by oldsouth :
Since the software is on the modem itself, am I correct in thinking that this will be a non-tweakable setup? Will the RWIN and other DrTcp settings on a computer actually be used by the modem? What about the max connections setting in the registry? PetDude?
Good question. I was wondering the same thing. Anyone know ?
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Red Baron
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| Since PetDude hasn't checked in yet, the DW6000, like the DW4020 is pretty much untweakable from what I've heard.
Just the LAN tweaks like the LCCU does for the clients.
It is (they are) a stand alone modem that is connected to the computers over ethernet cables. No USB connection or host DAK software required.
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NoClones
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Zebulon, NC | So technically they could limit download and upload speed with the modem itself and there be nothing we could do to change that? | |
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Red Baron
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| Yes, but they can do that now on the SRS and DRS systems and you can't change them. I refer to AOL+ being capped to around 600 kbps and the DW CE FAP at 169 megs.
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| Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? Yes, I know about FAP. So as they cap AOL Plus around 600kbps down they may/can do the same thing with our current setups, IE. DW4000 along with the new 6000 model?
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| I'm not going to speculate on the future and start rumors, but the system is capable of many types of controls.
Consumers have wanted an all in one box that is OS platform independent for a long time and the DW4020 and DW6000 are to fill this bill.
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Zebulon, NC | Re: [SRS] When will DW6000 be made public/upgrade promotion? I understand | |
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