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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
 ·Verizon Online DSL
| reply to ikarus1
Re: Who do I send the bill to........
I have not seen an ISP charge per byte. I have seen services charge per minute.
The problem with charging per minute, is that it was done before and people didn't like it. Compuserve anyone? Not only did they charge per minute for regular connections, they charged extra for "special" services. They even had day and night rates and higher rates for faster modems (300, 1200 and 2400 baud rates.)
Now for a dial up, most people don't stay on for that long as they only do email and mild surfing.
Broadband is a different story. People expect speed and a lot of bandwith to download stuff. They pay about the same amount as a second phone line and monthly subscription to most dial up ISP's. That is a selling point. That is one of the reasons I got it.
Now, I will agree that some people should only pay $5/month for broadband since they use it rarely. However, most of these people would stay with dial up and have no reason to go to broadband.
Now, lets go over what are the selling point of broadband:
1) Speed
2) Content (especially streaming audio and video)
3) Cost (when compared to a second phone line and ISP subscription)
4) Always on
Numbers 1 and 4 are not really relavent to this discussion. However, #2 and #3 are. If I see a flashy commercial saying I can stream cool video and audio from the net, I would hate to find out that it would cost me a few pennys per MB to see it. If I want to listen to an out of town baseball game on streaming audio from a radio station, should I get out my credit card? I can see the people looking for alternatives now or dropping broadband all together. You think a lot of people will keep broadband if it starts costing more than $50/month? The trend is to pull prices down, not up.
Do I deny there are some that use a lot? Nope, nature of the beast. If someone is way over a KNOWN limit, then you should address that. Think of the words of Henry Ford, "The man who uses his skill and constructive imagination to see how much he can give for a dollar instead of how little he can give for a dollar is bound to succeed."
said by joebear29  :
You don't have to use Windows XP. You (would hypothetically) pay for bandwidth, if you needed that for Windows updates that is your problem, not the ISPs.
Oddly enough, I still use 98 but still have to download security updates. And unless the ISP's don't mind my system being used for DNS attacks, I think they would want me to download the updates (even with a firewall.) Remember, Joe Email and Suzy Spreadsheet don't know much about system security. And, not everyone has the time nor ability to configure a Linux system and many people don't want to buy Macs. Plus, with Linux, you get to download all those add ons online too.
said by joebear29 :
Why would you do that? You chose to visit their website, if they want to include a pop-up that is their business. You going to bill them for using extra graphics as well?
Besides, how much bandwidth could the pop-ups really use, especially if you had a blocker? Would it even be remotely material?
Depends, some pop-ups are simple and small but what happens in the future when someone gets the bright idea to make pop-ups a full blown Flash extravaganza. And, I have yet to see ANY site advertise the fact they have pop-ups for your pleasure.
What if I want to go to a site to research a product I want to buy? Maybe we need to get warning labels on websites that have large amounts of graphics so we can choose or not to choose to visit them.
said by JTRockville :
Are there blockers available that don't download the ad first, before blocking it from being displayed?
If not, perhaps we'll need a "DoNotPop.gov" registry for IP ranges.
Not sure on this one.
Donotpop.gov list? Hmmm, potential in that idea.  | |
ikarus1
Premium
join:2002-10-23
Urbanna, VA
| > I still use 98 but still have to download security >updates.
Oddly enough... there are alternatives... I could care if you need to download a security patch every day... as an ISP I am going to charge you per byte on the patch BECAUSE you run a sub-standard OS...
NOW you are going to remind me that Win2K shipped a week before MS issued a 20Meg patch, and you are going to remind me that XP shipped a week before a 20 Meg patch...
and I am going to say TOUCH SH1T....
AM I SUPPOSED TO CARE THAT YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT REALITY?
-m-
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by ikarus1 :
> I still use 98 but still have to download security >updates.
Oddly enough... there are alternatives... I could care if you need to download a security patch every day... as an ISP I am going to charge you per byte on the patch BECAUSE you run a sub-standard OS...
NOW you are going to remind me that Win2K shipped a week before MS issued a 20Meg patch, and you are going to remind me that XP shipped a week before a 20 Meg patch...
and I am going to say TOUCH SH1T....
AM I SUPPOSED TO CARE THAT YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT REALITY?
-m-
Tell me a good OS then. Linux? HA, still need to get patches for that. Mac OSX? Please. Every single OS has it's problems and vunerabilities.
So you are going to tell people if you run a certain OS, you will pay more? What type of BS is that? And, as an ISP, you might have that many customers tolerant of your policies and soon you'll be left with few customers.
My guess is that you have issues with MS but unfortunatly for you (and some others), it is the most popular OS. WELCOME TO REALITY! | |
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