
| Need help nabbing a Spammer While updating my research on sources of Messenger Spam, I've noticed that a significant percentage of it is originating from the following source IP:
202.131.221.61 See also: »www.mynetwatchman.com/LID.asp?IID=43254582
Unfortunately, I'm also convinced that this joker is sending the traffic using a *forged* IP address from two different locations...I'm pretty sure they are both in the US or Canada.
When I receive this traffic I note that he ending TTL (time-to-live) in the packets are 48 and 53. Assuming a starting TTL of 64, that would mean the spammer is only 16 and 11 hops away from me, respectively. Thus, my conclusion that this traffic is NOT actually coming from China, but much more local.
This is a good opportunity to test an idea that I've had for backtracing the source of spoofed traffic...I call it "TTL Triangulation" ... it works much like a GPS receiver...by collecting spam packets from various locations and comparing the TTLs we should be able to hone in where the actually source of this traffic is.
So I ask anyone here that wants to participate and has the ability to take full packet captures of inbound Messenger spam to capture packets from this IP and email them to me.
My guide to setting up Ethereal is here: »www.mynetwatchman.com/pckidiot
You'll want to enter the following string in the 'Filter' box on the Capture screen:
udp and ip host 202.131.221.61
Feel free to email or phone me, I'll be happy to give some one-on-one help if you're not clear on how to set this up.
+1.678.624.0924 support (at) mynetwatchman . com
See example packet here: »www.mynetwatchman.com/d2.htm
Note the TTL value in the example packet...the closer your value is to 64 the closer YOU are to the spammer...if I can at least identify which ISP he's using I can nab him. -- Lawrence Baldwin
myNetWatchman
The Internet Neighborhood Watch [text was edited by author 2003-09-20 10:01:51] |
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 | This sounds like an exellent idea I wished I had the expertiese to assist. Would I be wrong in compareing this to the triangulation practices used by the FCC for radio, would it work the same. For example if a dedicated computerwas established at the NE ans NW corner states and one on the south Gulf coast midpoint of the US that a permenant monitoring could be established |
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 AmeritecTechChange we can believe in, 1922Premium join:2002-09-06 Houston, TX kudos:6
| reply to NetWatchMan Better to go after the sites he is spamming for. What are some of the sites? Open up your firewall briefly and let some of it through to find out which sites it is using. [text was edited by author 2003-09-20 18:18:57] |
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 keith2468Premium,MVM join:2001-02-03 Winnipeg, MB
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Good point AT.
Really we should go after both the spamvertized site and the spammer.
But Mynetwatchman reports sources of packets unexpected packets to their ISPs or admins, which I suspect is why the interest.
Attaches are some packet captures (thanks to J.R.): www.DESTROYTHEFAT.com www.DESTROYADS.com www.BYEBYEADS.com www.DIRECTADSTOPPER.com www.endads.com www.MESSENGERBEGONE.com www.MessengerDestroyer.com www.DIRECTADSTOPPER.com www.MessageStop.net www.teenssexfactory.com www.MessageStop.net www.MessengerStopper.com www.MessageBasher.com www.DefeatMessenger.com www.BroadcastBlocker.com www.FightPopups.com
In a lot of western countries, asking for money to stop doing something to someone is extortion. [text was edited by author 2003-09-20 20:19:03] |
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 AmeritecTechChange we can believe in, 1922Premium join:2002-09-06 Houston, TX kudos:6 | Okay, several of those have the following reg info:
Registrant: d squared PO BOX 927142 San Diego, CA 92129-7142 US
Domain Name: DEFEATMESSENGER.COM
Administrative Contact: SpamSlammers Admin PO BOX 927142 San Diego, CA 92129-7142 US 800-453-3422 msgaway2003@yahoo.com
Technical Contact, Zone Contact: d squared Admin PO BOX 927142 San Diego, CA 92129-7142 US 800-453-3422 msgaway2003@yahoo.com
Domain created on 19-Dec-2002 Domain expires on 19-Dec-2003 Last updated on 08-Sep-2003
Domain servers in listed order:
NS.SPEEDYPACKETS.COM NS2.SPEEDYPACKETS.COM
Given that he owns several of these domains, he's probably sending these directly rather than through another company. |
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 AmeritecTechChange we can believe in, 1922Premium join:2002-09-06 Houston, TX kudos:6 | reply to NetWatchMan Check it out, someone's already hunting these D Squared guys.
»www.popupspamsucks.com/d-squared···ons.html |
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 AmeritecTechChange we can believe in, 1922Premium join:2002-09-06 Houston, TX kudos:6 | reply to NetWatchMan And a nasty letter from the spammers. »www.popupspamsucks.com/threat.html |
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 keith2468Premium,MVM join:2001-02-03 Winnipeg, MB | reply to NetWatchMan I notice the letter for this bunch of spam bait: Procopio, Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch LLP 530 B Street, 21st Floor San Diego, CA 92101
Telephone: 619-238-1900 619-235-0398 (fax)
North County Office Procopio, Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch LLP 1917 Palomar Oaks Way, Suite 300 Carlsbad, CA 92008
Telephone: 760-931-9700 760-931-1155 (fax)
E-Mail: law@procopio.com |
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 keith2468Premium,MVM join:2001-02-03 Winnipeg, MB
| reply to NetWatchMan I think since the original page might be deleted and the link stop working, that that is adequate reason to post the entire revealing page here (not something I would normally do moderator): ===================================================== PopUpSpamSucks
Messenger Service Spam Hall of Shame. D Squared Solutions LLC
This is the page D Squared Solutions LLC's lawyer demanded be removed in its entirety when they threatened our web host. Legal Threat - Final Warning
Having seemingly been kicked off their Exodus.Net hosting at 64.70.45.200 it appears that the D Squared spam operation has now moved its spamming headquarters out of country and into China. They now appear to be sending spams from a variety of addresses on the NH-CABLE-COM-CN Network.
New Identified PopUp Spam Addresses sending spams advertising D Squared Solutions LLC sites: 210.5.22.10 210.5.22.11 210.5.22.17 210.5.22.18 210.5.22.19 210.5.22.20 210.5.22.21 210.5.22.22 210.5.22.23
These new addresses already grace 2 pages of our spam database at the time of writing (06-20-2003). Database Entries. We are sure you will recognise many of these ads and some will likely be surprised that they all appear to be the work of the same spam outfit. As these machines appear to be running the Linux OS and it is reasonably safe to assume that these machines are running socks5 proxy service on non default ports and the spam is being relayed from San Diego through these proxies. Over the past couple of weeks we have received some interesting responses requesting in regard to our requests for more info on this outfit. We are currently working on verifying submitted information before publishing.
inetnum: 210.5.22.0 - 210.5.22.31 netname: NH-CABLE-COM-CN descr: Nanhan da road, Gui Cheng district Nanhaicity ,Guangdongprovince, descr: china country: CN admin-c: BF14-AP tech-c: HO31-AP mnt-by: MAINT-CN-GUANGTONG changed: hostmaster@optisp.com 20020411 status: ASSIGNED NON-PORTABLE source: APNIC changed: hm-changed@apnic.net 20020827 person: Ben Feng address: Room 5806-07, CITIC Plaza,#233, Tianhebei Rd. Guangzhou, GD country: CN phone: +8620-38771150-2801 fax-no: +8620-38771150-2801 e-mail: ben@optisp.com nic-hdl: BF14-AP mnt-by: MAINT-NEW changed: hostmaster@apnic.net 20011019 source: APNIC
person: Hostmaster OPTISP address: Guangtong IDC, 3/F, #58 Jianzhong Rd. Ruanjianyuan, Guangzhou,GD, P.R.China country: CN phone: +8620-85559257 fax-no: +8620-85532360 e-mail: hostmaster@optisp.com nic-hdl: HO31-AP mnt-by: MAINT-NEW changed: hostmaster@optisp.com 20020311 source: APNIC
Update
D Squared Solutions LLC Finally Unmasked.
We are sure that by now many of our readers that have been repeatedly spammed by these people (who in OUR OPINION are scumbags) are itching to know who is behind D Squared Solutions LLC. We are now able to identify two of the faces behind the spam operation and throw in some other rather interesting supportive facts. It took many hours of diligent research and piecing together many fragments of evidence to arrive at these these results and be able to provide the required proof before writing.
It is a fact that this companies ads create an ongoing spam nuisance, then claim they are trying to help people fight the spam by selling them a message blocking program to block the spam, their company sends. What if we were to tell you that the very same company also sell spam tools? Hypocritical in our opinion maybe that they spam you 10 times a day claiming they want to help you fight spam by selling you an ad blocker yet on the other hand are selling tools to spammers? It appears that these people (who in OUR OPINION are scumbags) are playing both sides of the fence.
D Squared Solutions LLC is owned by one Anish Dhingra who also incidentally runs www.broadcastmarketer.com which sells popup spam tools. How do we know? Following the links to the buy now page takes you to the billing details which clearly states at the bottom of the page. Interesting links: Jenett Radio three quarters of the way down the page entitled AOL Blocks Messenger Spam. News.Com article quoting Dhingra. Badads.Org article entitled AOL, Spammer dukes it out. CERT article. OnlineJournalism.Com article entitled AOL battles against instant spam. Dmsolutions.net article about spam.
NOTE: Your credit card statement will report this charge as: "D Squared Solutions"
[Amendment] The above information has now been removed from the billing details page but it still shows "squaredbilling" in the url »ignite.combustionlabs.com/square···eter.php
A Whois lookup provides further information verifying that the domain belongs to the same outfit.
Registrant: d squared PO BOX 927142 San Diego, CA 92129-7142 US
Domain Name: BROADCASTMARKETER.COM
Administrative Contact: SpamSlammers (Interesting inclusion in their domain details - this *is not* related to us) Admin PO BOX 927142 San Diego, CA 92129-7142 US 800-453-3422 msgaway2003@yahoo.com
Technical Contact, Zone Contact: d squared Admin PO BOX 927142 San Diego, CA 92129-7142 US 800-453-3422 msgaway2003@yahoo.com
Domain created on 20-Oct-2002 Domain expires on 20-Oct-2004 Last updated on 13-Feb-2003
Domain servers in listed order:
NS.COMBUSTIONLABS.COM NS2.COMBUSTIONLABS.COM
We also found another domain belonging to them using the same combustionlabs.com nameservers which is www.oktanedesign.com
What else do we know about Anish Dhingra?
More facts of interest are to be found here which name Anish Dhingra as the head of Broadcast Marketer which incidentally looks like a tool made by a child after downloading the demo version and installing it on a test computer. I would rate it about 2 out of 10 if I had the slightest interest in reviewing scumware of this type.
We are reliably informed that Anish Dhingra lives at the below address which was also further confirmed by their lawyer.
Anish Dhingra 5240 Fiore Terrace J317 , CA 92122 661-755-3656 anishd@san.rr.com
You can contact Anish Dhingra at the above address.
We are further informed by the same anonymous source that supplied the above these are other contact numbers for Anish Dhingra and Jeff Davis.
Anish Dhingra 858-245-1842
Anish Dhingra & Jeff Davis (Home) 858-794-7060
Jeff Davis 858-220-1248
BroadcastMarketer Anish Dhingra, president Phone: 858-455-1617 E-mail: customerservice@broadcastmarketer.com
Items above in italics sourced from BadAds.Org who also invite you to "write these poor misguided folks and reeducate them"
We have also good reason to believe that Jeff Davis is also a partner in D Squared Solutions LLC and this would possibly account for the name D Squared (D to the power of 2) Dhingra and Davis.
Their Broadcast Marketer program contains some interesting strings viewable with a hex editor showing the below
e:\Documents and Settings\jdavis\My Documents\Visual Studio Projects\BroadcastMarketer\Release\BroadcastMarketer.pdb
The above shows that the user account on the computer used to compile the Broadcast Market program was called "jdavis" and was written in Microsoft Visual C++ which further bears out the theory that Jeff Davis is a partner in D Squared Solutions LLC.
New Spam Domain WWW.MSGBLOCKER.COM
This appears to have all the hallmarks of one of their domains, if it isn't theirs then their hosts must be harbouring even more spammers with almost identical operations.
Domain Name: MSGBLOCKER.COM Registrar: NAMESDIRECT.COM, INC. Whois Server: whois.namesdirect.com Referral URL: »www.namesdirect.com Name Server: NS1.MEGANAMESERVERS.COM Name Server: NS2.MEGANAMESERVERS.COM Name Server: NS3.MEGANAMESERVERS.COM Status: ACTIVE Updated Date: 20-apr-2003 Creation Date: 02-apr-2003 Expiration Date: 02-apr-2004
Registrant: msgBLOCKER msgBLOCKER msgBLOCKER, msgBLOCKER msgBLOCKER US
Registrar: NAMESDIRECT Domain Name: MSGBLOCKER.COM Created on: 01-APR-03 Expires on: 02-APR-04 Last Updated on: 20-APR-03
Administrative, Technical Contact: BLOCKER, msg support@msgblocker.com msgBLOCKER msgBLOCKER msgBLOCKER, msgBLOCKER msgBLOCKER US msgBLOCKER
Domain servers in listed order: NS1.MEGANAMESERVERS.COM NS2.MEGANAMESERVERS.COM NS3.MEGANAMESERVERS.COM ================================================= Those guys were intruding into my NAT router dozens of times a days for several weeks. [text was edited by author 2003-09-20 20:48:08] |
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 keith2468Premium,MVM join:2001-02-03 Winnipeg, MB | reply to NetWatchMan Again, the original spam fighting site might be shut down and the link to there rendered unusable, so I'm duplicating its contents here, not something I would otherwise do. ======================================================== July 1, 2003
Via Federal Express
Mr. Michael Paris Lockdown Corp. 44-P Dover Point Office Park Dover, New Hampshire 03820
Re: D Squared Solutions, LLC
Dear Mr. Paris:
This letter concerns Lockdown Corp.s (Lockdown) recent online posting of certain defamatory statements and personal and private information related to our client, D Squared Solutions, LLC (D Squared), and its president, Anish Dhingra.
As set forth in detail below Lockdowns actions amount to both common law and statutory liability for invasion of privacy, as well as liability for libel per se. In light of these transgressions, we demand Lockdown immediately remove any and all defamatory statements and postings regarding Mr. Dhingra and D Squared, and all personal and private information concerning Mr. Dhingra and D Squared from Lockdowns Internet web sites, and refrain from all future such publications and postings. Failure to take these remedial steps will result in serious legal consequences.
In addition, it appears as if some of the information you have posted was obtained by you in connection with a business transaction in which you sold a product to our client. If this is true, your liability would be substantially magnified.
Background.
In the past few days, Mr. Dhingra learned he, and his company, had become the target of a smear campaign instituted, and perpetuated, by Lockdown. Specifically, Mr. Dhingra discovered a litany of derogatory comments lodged by Lockdown against D Squared, and himself, personally, on Lockdowns www.spam-slammer.com Internet web site. Among Lockdowns remarks were charges D Squareds business practices were unethical and underhanded, and D Squared and Mr. Dhingra were hypocritical scumbags. Lockdown also posted significant pieces of personal and private information about Mr. Dhingra, and D Squared, on its web site and promised to publish additional personal information in the near future. Finally, Lockdown invited visitors to its web site to contact Mr. Dhingra, and D Squared, directly to discuss the disdainful allegations levied at them by your company.
Cease and Desist Demand.
We find Lockdowns actions disturbing, to say the least. The opprobrious characterizations of D Squared and its personnel which appear on Lockdowns web site are not only untruthful, but serve no legitimate purpose other than to undermine D Squareds software development business. Indeed, these statements constitute libel per se, allowing Mr. Dhingra and D Squared to bring claims against your company without a showing of special damages. Additionally, the public disclosure of sensitive personal and private information of Mr. Dhingra and D Squared clearly treads upon their privacy rights. Lockdowns conduct, therefore, offers ample support for our contention Lockdown is in violation of Californias common law and statutory invasion of privacy prohibitions, and liable for libel per se, as well.
Mr. Dhingra and D Squared take their legal rights very seriously, and we hope you do, too. While we wish to achieve an informal resolution to this matter, we will bring all legal resources to bear which are necessary and proper to advance our position in this dispute, and prevent further publication of both defamatory statements, and personal information, concerning Mr. Dhingra and D Squared.
To avoid such eventuality, we hereby demand the following: (i) Lockdown must remove any and all defamatory, disparaging, and/or reproachful statements concerning Mr. Dhingra and/or D Squared from its www.spam-slammer.com web site, and any additional web sites where Lockdown, or any of its affiliates, may also post such statements; (ii) Lockdown must remove any and all personal and private information concerning Mr. Dhingra and/or D Squared from its www.spam-slammer.com web site, and any additional web site where Lockdown, or any of its affiliates, may also post such information; and (iii) Lockdown, and its affiliates, must refrain from engaging, or assisting others in engaging, in any of the foregoing actions, at anytime in the future. Lockdown has five (5) business days from the date of this letter to comply.
Failure to completely and timely satisfy these demands will cause Mr. Dhingra and D Squared to initiate an action for libel per se, common law invasion of privacy, and statutory invasion of privacy against you in United States federal district court.
Thank you, in advance, for your cooperation. Please feel free to contact me should you wish to discuss the contents of this letter, or any other issue, in greater detail.
Sincerely,
JACOB C. REINBOLT, of Procopio, Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch LLP JCR:ctm |
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 keith2468Premium,MVM join:2001-02-03 Winnipeg, MB | reply to NetWatchMan Personally judging by his alleged actions, I don't think Mr. Anish Dhingra has sufficient personal integrity to be running a software business, based on what appears to be his messenger spamming with falsified origin IP addresses.
Taking actions that promote anti-Chinese racial hatred, and asking for money to stop bothering people, and falsifying a statement of origin to blame someone else for one's actions, is just unacceptable behaviour, in our profession at least.
Mr. Anish Dhingra might have better success practicing law if it turns out he has really being doing all that is alleged. |
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 keith2468Premium,MVM join:2001-02-03 Winnipeg, MB | reply to NetWatchMan Maybe Square D deserves its own thread. I wonder if that can be arranged? |
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 AmeritecTechChange we can believe in, 1922Premium join:2002-09-06 Houston, TX kudos:6 | I just called and left a message on their machine offering them to enroll in my Call Protection System. For 24.95, I will ensure that they don't receive any more telephone calls from me. |
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 catseyenuAck PfftPremium join:2001-11-17 Fix East | reply to NetWatchMan »www.terraserver.microsoft.com./a···CA+92122 |
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 TA63ST215WPremium,MVM join:2000-11-23 there kudos:2 | reply to NetWatchMan While the intent of pursuing this spammer is noble, I think we should try to stick to the original intent of »/useremail/u/342913 's when he posted this thread.
I agree that going after the spamvertised site is a good idea, however I can also see merit in Mr Baldwin deeloping software tools that could be used to track down someone who is forging IP's.
I wish I had the technical ability to assist in this endeavor. I will read the links in the OP to try to figure it out... -- Don't Feed the Trolls----Click 'Hey mods' instead!:) »Auto Chat |
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 WildcatboyPremium,Mod join:2000-10-30 Toronto, ON kudos:2 | reply to NetWatchMan
Agreed. Folks, please stick to the main subject. |
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 AmeritecTechChange we can believe in, 1922Premium join:2002-09-06 Houston, TX kudos:6 | reply to TA63 Except that we've already found the ISP through these other means, right? Its Roadrunner. |
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 TA63ST215WPremium,MVM join:2000-11-23 there kudos:2 | I perceived the original intent as assistance with developing/testing the software tool that can be used to "triangulate" the source of the forged ip messenger spam.
If this tool can be properly developed, it can reduce the ability of the spammer to hide.
Good for "us" bad for "them".  -- Don't Feed the Trolls----Click 'Hey mods' instead!:) »Auto Chat |
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 JRBloodPremium join:1999-12-28 Syracuse, NY | reply to NetWatchMan said by NetWatchMan: So I ask anyone here that wants to participate and has the ability to take full packet captures of inbound Messenger spam to capture packets from this IP and email them to me.
Ethereal up and running. We'll see what we can see. 
To Keith: I thought that filename looked familiar.  |
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 | reply to TA63 said by TA63: I perceived the original intent as assistance with developing/testing the software tool that can be used to "triangulate" the source of the forged ip messenger spam.
If this tool can be properly developed, it can reduce the ability of the spammer to hide.
Exactly...please let's get back on track. I'm aware of all the other research that's been done on these guys...spamvertising a web site is one thing, but I have a theory that they guys are hacking systems and then using those systems to send the popups, thus the reason why I am focused on find the sending source...that would be much more damning evidence.
I've already had a few of their web sites shut down, but as you see they just pick another dozen names and fire up new sites....we really need to get at exactly where they are sending the popups from to really accomplish anything. -- Lawrence Baldwin myNetWatchman The Internet Neighborhood Watch |
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