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mrchris We don't miss you Bush Premium join:2002-10-01 North Babylon, NY	Jerk I think this guy cares more about money than giving out unlimited music for his customers..What an idiot Typical corporate company ripping the customer off. [text was edited by author 2003-10-09 20:00:01]
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pianotech Pianotech Premium join:2002-12-30 New Castle, PA	said by mrchris : I think this guy cares more about money than giving out unlimited music for his customers..What an idiot Typical corporate company ripping the customer off. [text was edited by author 2003-10-09 20:00:01] Yeah, the nerve! Charging a whole quarter for unencrypted, high quality VBR mp3's! Talk about greed! -- Independent Composer & Pianist.
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damonlab Premium join:2001-05-02 Detroit, MI clubs:	reply to mrchris said by mrchris : I think this guy cares more about money than giving out unlimited music for his customers..What an idiot Typical corporate company ripping the customer off. [text was edited by author 2003-10-09 20:00:01] A business has to make profit somehow. He saw that some people were taking more then their fair share. He then changes the rules to benefit his business. The people that don't like it can move elsewhere. At least this guy is trying to propagate the online business model... something the RIAA still has not done. -- Our deficit is the highest is has ever been. Unemployment is through the roof. We invaded a country that could not defend itself. The list goes on and on. ***Vote against George W. Bush in 2004.***
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Toymaster Premium join:2001-12-27 Flint, MI clubs: ·AT&T Midwest	Unlimited business model... said by damonlab : A business has to make profit somehow. He saw that some people were taking more then their fair share. He then changes the rules to benefit his business. The people that don't like it can move elsewhere. At least this guy is trying to propagate the online business model... something the RIAA still has not done. Well, then they (e-business) should have never of used the unlimited business model. They are just using it to see how many people will climb on board, then when they impose a cap without telling anyone, see how many customers stay with that company. Most sane people know there will be few ppl who abuse the "unlimited" usage of anything that is "unlimited". If you apply this to cable's undisclosed "limited" usage, then eventually the internet itself will become a commercial device. Something, I will grudgingly use if it comes to that. I have seen CNN go from unlimited news to a pay to read news...hell I will go back to the paper. I go to MSNBC now, at least they are still free, and they get my web clicks as well. "TVGUIDE.com" you have to register now to even look at the local tv listings, so you tell me that companies to not know that if something is unlimited people are not going to take full advantage of it? -- Join SETI Now!
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kilingspam join:2001-04-30 San Jose, CA	reply to pianotech Re: Jerk WRONG!!!! emusic.com only offers 128 mp3's. I'm surprised emusic.com has lasted this long with only adding about 10 new albums per year for download. (and most of those by unknown polka bands, or even worse, some kid submitting his Techno-Ejay tunes) LOL 90% of "music" they offer is by unknown bands. The "only" real thing it appears they offer is in their comedy section. and that is also only if you are a George Carlin fan.
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pianotech Pianotech Premium join:2002-12-30 New Castle, PA	said by kilingspam : WRONG!!!! emusic.com only offers 128 mp3's. I'm surprised emusic.com has lasted this long with only adding about 10 new albums per year for download. (and most of those by unknown polka bands, or even worse, some kid submitting his Techno-Ejay tunes) LOL 90% of "music" they offer is by unknown bands. The "only" real thing it appears they offer is in their comedy section. and that is also only if you are a George Carlin fan. You could not be more wrong. First of all, all the artists on Emusic are signed to indie labels...there are no unsigned artists uploading their so-called "music" there. Most of their files are in high quality variable bit rate, and I've got the files to prove it. There are still some carry-overs that are in 128, but those are the exception, not the rule. You obviously were not a member or you would know this. At any rate, you should get your facts straight before spouting off inaccurate information and embarrassing yourself. As for music, I consider Apples In Stereo, The Decemberists, Echo & The Bunnymen, Yes, Doleful Lions, Higher Burning Fire, Leo Kottke, Stereolab, The Church, Secret Machines, The Kinks, etc, as excellent bands...with the exception of the Kinks and Yes, that's all music I would never have heard. Not on p2p and certainly not on the radio. Get your facts straight about what you're talking about. More importantly, have an open mind...you might be surprised at what you discover. Edit: Btw, the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Good Charlotte, etc, were all "unknown bands" at one time. Ever think of that? Didn't think so. So you want instead to pay for a service that lets you hear everything you've already heard before? Mmkay..:) -- Independent Composer & Pianist. [text was edited by author 2003-10-10 08:42:39]
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moonpuppy join:2000-08-21 Glen Burnie, MD ·Verizon Online DSL	said by pianotech : As for music, I consider Apples In Stereo, The Decemberists, Echo & The Bunnymen, Yes, Doleful Lions, Higher Burning Fire, Leo Kottke, Stereolab, The Church, Secret Machines, The Kinks, etc, as excellent bands...with the exception of the Kinks and Yes, that's all music I would never have heard. Not on p2p and certainly not on the radio. Edit: Btw, the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Good Charlotte, etc, were all "unknown bands" at one time. Ever think of that? Didn't think so. So you want instead to pay for a service that lets you hear everything you've already heard before? Mmkay..:) -- Independent Composer & Pianist. [text was edited by author 2003-10-10 08:42:39] You know why you never hear this stuff on the radio? 1. Language - Rap seems to be the most responsible for this but when you lace your music with the f-word on every other line, then radio play is not going to happen. Even some heavy metal bands and "alternative" bands have done the same thing. Yes, there are "radio" versions but when you insert language like that into your music, you accept the fact it won't get played in its original format on the radio. 2. No more disc jockeys - Radio is now all "personalities." No more guys like Wolfman Jack who would play something to see if the crowd liked it or not. A local station used to have a "battle of the bands" when they introduced new music. That was 10 years ago. Now, Clear Channel and other have taken the playlists out of the local station hands and given them to the accountants and marketing people. Want to blame anyone here, blame big business. Besides, Echo and the Bunnymen were around in my time (80's) so they are not unknown to me.
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pianotech Pianotech Premium join:2002-12-30 New Castle, PA	Language like what? Besides the Bunnymen, Yes, and the Kinks, have you heard any of this stuff? There's no language in it at all that's bad and it's all radio-friendly. The reason you don't hear it is because they are not involved in the RIAA/ClearChannel Pay For Play cartel, and that's it. But the original issue was someone here posting that Emusic offered only 128bitrate mp3s (which is wrong) and accepted uploads (which is wrong) by unsigned musicians (which is wrong). -- Independent Composer & Pianist.
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kilingspam join:2001-04-30 San Jose, CA	reply to pianotech (Calling me a liar of which I AM NOT! Spouting off? How polite......) Again I should have known better than to post. The rudeness here at DSLR these days... I will take that and admit they may have now changed (unverified, I just looked at an album the other day for my little bro and it was 128) to vbr rates but the last time I used them, when I was a member a little over a year ago, all they had was 128 PERIOD! I do have an open mind and listen to LOTS of different music (gospel to acid rock), but come on, they have ALOT of CRAP on their site MOST would not want! Admit it! I will listen to it, give it a chance, but bad music is bad music! With the internet anyone can produce music and post it to a website and not have ANY TALENT! With or without a label.
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pianotech Pianotech Premium join:2002-12-30 New Castle, PA	Alright, I apologize for being rude..sincerely. I was just trying to make the distinction between Emusic and one of those "upload your music" sites, like mp3.com among others. Emusic is not one of those..all the acts are signed! Sure there is bad music there but there are a lot of gems too! And I never said you were a liar...I just said that you were wrong, albeit it I didn't go about it in the most gracious way. -- Independent Composer & Pianist.
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moonpuppy join:2000-08-21 Glen Burnie, MD ·Verizon Online DSL	reply to pianotech said by pianotech : Language like what? Besides the Bunnymen, Yes, and the Kinks, have you heard any of this stuff? There's no language in it at all that's bad and it's all radio-friendly. This is a general statement I made. When you have Eminem, Insane Clown Posse and a few other making record sales with no radio airplay, then something has to account for how these bands are being heard. said by pianotech : The reason you don't hear it is because they are not involved in the RIAA/ClearChannel Pay For Play cartel, and that's it. Thank you for proving my second point.
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PolarBearWY join:2002-02-20 Laramie, WY	reply to mrchris I was in the car yesterday for 20 minutes total today in three trips. I took my g/f to the university. I picked her up. I went to the post office. Amazingly, I heard the same song in each of the three trips. Can you see why I want to be able to burn my own mix CDs? I want to burn 6 CDs with 20 tracks on each, but cannot afford to buy 120 CDs to do it legally. The RIAA needs to get with the program and accept the internet as a selling venue. 99 cents per song is ridiculous. The avg retail CD has about 15 tracks, right? I can buy it from a seller on Amazon or Half.com for $9 + shipping, brand new. So if I can get it from a seller making profit at $9 (minus 15% commission), then I should be able to get it for about $5 digitally, since they won't need to press the CD, ship it to a warehouse, store it, ship it to a seller, etc. So I should be able to get 15 downloads for $5, in my view. But the RIAA is being such an ass about the internet that I don't even want to give them $5. Anyone know how many "artists" there were back in the 70s? Why is it that the number of "artists" with CDs has risen about 4,000% in the last two decades and yet the number of talented "artists" has declined about 50%??
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zeroidea join:2001-02-05 Chicago, IL ·AT&T Midwest	reply to moonpuppy said by moonpuppy : You know why you never hear this stuff on the radio? 1. Language - Rap seems to be the most responsible for this but when you lace your music with the f-word on every other line, then radio play is not going to happen. Even some heavy metal bands and "alternative" bands have done the same thing. Yes, there are "radio" versions but when you insert language like that into your music, you accept the fact it won't get played in its original format on the radio. Umm.. Almost all the bands listed are indie-rock bands, not RAP. Consequently, there's very little cursing involved, and they do get played on college radio, which is basically the only format on the airwaves which still makes use of disc jockeys.
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moonpuppy join:2000-08-21 Glen Burnie, MD ·Verizon Online DSL	said by zeroidea : said by moonpuppy : You know why you never hear this stuff on the radio? 1. Language - Rap seems to be the most responsible for this but when you lace your music with the f-word on every other line, then radio play is not going to happen. Even some heavy metal bands and "alternative" bands have done the same thing. Yes, there are "radio" versions but when you insert language like that into your music, you accept the fact it won't get played in its original format on the radio. Umm.. Almost all the bands listed are indie-rock bands, not RAP. Consequently, there's very little cursing involved, and they do get played on college radio, which is basically the only format on the airwaves which still makes use of disc jockeys. Most college stations aren't that powerful and can't be heard far from the campus they transmit from. Also, college radio stations fall into the same trap other stations do. They play only certain types of music. Every station has its format. Most college stations play the indie stuff that no one else plays for various reasons. However, my point still stands. Language is one reason why some music does NOT get radio airplay. I never said that this was the stuff on eMusic. I was mearly making a point that radio (as it is now) will not play certain music because of the language in it (notably rap, hip-hop, and even some indie stuff.) When was the last time you heard Insane Clown Posse on the radio? They even admit they don't get airplay yet they still sell albums. If the CD carries a "Parental Advisory" label, kids buy it. Also, college stations are not imune from the FCC so if there was an indie group that spouted off enough vulgarities in their song, the station would find itself in just a bit of trouble.
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DSLTech join:2000-12-30 San Jose, CA	reply to PolarBearWY I dont think 99 cents per song is bad. Your logic about 15 tracks is nonsense. Dont tell me you'll LIKE all 15 tracks. Maybe at most 5 songs? So you paid $10 plus shipping for 5 songs. OK so you want 15 songs fo $5? Lets again assume that its the same album with the same 15 songs of which only 5 are any good. Well thats $1.00 per song, buddy. Fact is, if you really like a song, 1 buck isnt that much to pay.
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PolarBearWY join:2002-02-20 Laramie, WY	reply to mrchris I don't buy the 1-song CDs, or 5-song CDs. I mostly buy soundtracks or new age music -- and yeah, I like all songs. I like all 18 tracks on the Gladiator soundtrack. And I think I like about all but 3-5 tracks on ALL Radiohead CDs ever produced, including the imports. I would never buy a CD that was 67% crap.
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neutral faith in the future Premium join:2001-08-04 Ringgold, GA ·AT&T Southeast	reply to kilingspam said by kilingspam : I do have an open mind and listen to LOTS of different music (gospel to acid rock), but come on, they have ALOT of CRAP on their site MOST would not want! Admit it! I'm glad you are open to lots of different music. Many are not that open-minded. So you didn't like most of the Emusic catalog. At least you tried it out first. Sure, there's crap, there's a lot of great stuff too. I've gotten tons of it from Emusic. I'm not real concerned about what MOST would want. MOST like whatever they're spoon-fed on the radio or Kazaa. Who cares. -- you told me that you missed me, but you meant with the grille and hood irc.fj33r.com - #dslr\|\|Werewolves of Folding
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neutral faith in the future Premium join:2001-08-04 Ringgold, GA ·AT&T Southeast	reply to DSLTech said by DSLTech : I dont think 99 cents per song is bad. Your logic about 15 tracks is nonsense. Dont tell me you'll LIKE all 15 tracks. Maybe at most 5 songs? So you paid $10 plus shipping for 5 songs. OK so you want 15 songs fo $5? Lets again assume that its the same album with the same 15 songs of which only 5 are any good. Well thats $1.00 per song, buddy. Fact is, if you really like a song, 1 buck isnt that much to pay. This is not a difficult concept, buddy. Buy good music, you'll find that you might like ALL the tracks. Radio sheep complain that CDs only have 1 or 2 good songs on them now. My CDs might have one or two bad songs..... -- you told me that you missed me, but you meant with the grille and hood irc.fj33r.com - #dslr\|\|Werewolves of Folding
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