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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
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| reply to pianotech
Re: Jerk
said by pianotech  :
As for music, I consider Apples In Stereo, The Decemberists, Echo & The Bunnymen, Yes, Doleful Lions, Higher Burning Fire, Leo Kottke, Stereolab, The Church, Secret Machines, The Kinks, etc, as excellent bands...with the exception of the Kinks and Yes, that's all music I would never have heard. Not on p2p and certainly not on the radio.
Edit: Btw, the Beatles, Rolling Stones, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Good Charlotte, etc, were all "unknown bands" at one time. Ever think of that? Didn't think so.  So you want instead to pay for a service that lets you hear everything you've already heard before? Mmkay..:)
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[text was edited by author 2003-10-10 08:42:39]
You know why you never hear this stuff on the radio?
1. Language - Rap seems to be the most responsible for this but when you lace your music with the f-word on every other line, then radio play is not going to happen. Even some heavy metal bands and "alternative" bands have done the same thing. Yes, there are "radio" versions but when you insert language like that into your music, you accept the fact it won't get played in its original format on the radio.
2. No more disc jockeys - Radio is now all "personalities." No more guys like Wolfman Jack who would play something to see if the crowd liked it or not. A local station used to have a "battle of the bands" when they introduced new music. That was 10 years ago. Now, Clear Channel and other have taken the playlists out of the local station hands and given them to the accountants and marketing people. Want to blame anyone here, blame big business.
Besides, Echo and the Bunnymen were around in my time (80's) so they are not unknown to me. | |
pianotech
Pianotech
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join:2002-12-30
New Castle, PA
| Language like what? Besides the Bunnymen, Yes, and the Kinks, have you heard any of this stuff? There's no language in it at all that's bad and it's all radio-friendly.
The reason you don't hear it is because they are not involved in the RIAA/ClearChannel Pay For Play cartel, and that's it.
But the original issue was someone here posting that Emusic offered only 128bitrate mp3s (which is wrong) and accepted uploads (which is wrong) by unsigned musicians (which is wrong).
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moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by pianotech :
Language like what? Besides the Bunnymen, Yes, and the Kinks, have you heard any of this stuff? There's no language in it at all that's bad and it's all radio-friendly.
This is a general statement I made. When you have Eminem, Insane Clown Posse and a few other making record sales with no radio airplay, then something has to account for how these bands are being heard.
said by pianotech :
The reason you don't hear it is because they are not involved in the RIAA/ClearChannel Pay For Play cartel, and that's it.
Thank you for proving my second point. | |
zeroidea
join:2001-02-05
Chicago, IL
·AT&T Midwest
| reply to moonpuppy
said by moonpuppy :
You know why you never hear this stuff on the radio?
1. Language - Rap seems to be the most responsible for this but when you lace your music with the f-word on every other line, then radio play is not going to happen. Even some heavy metal bands and "alternative" bands have done the same thing. Yes, there are "radio" versions but when you insert language like that into your music, you accept the fact it won't get played in its original format on the radio.
Umm.. Almost all the bands listed are indie-rock bands, not RAP. Consequently, there's very little cursing involved, and they do get played on college radio, which is basically the only format on the airwaves which still makes use of disc jockeys. | |
moonpuppy
join:2000-08-21
Glen Burnie, MD
·Verizon Online DSL
| said by zeroidea :
said by moonpuppy :
You know why you never hear this stuff on the radio?
1. Language - Rap seems to be the most responsible for this but when you lace your music with the f-word on every other line, then radio play is not going to happen. Even some heavy metal bands and "alternative" bands have done the same thing. Yes, there are "radio" versions but when you insert language like that into your music, you accept the fact it won't get played in its original format on the radio.
Umm.. Almost all the bands listed are indie-rock bands, not RAP. Consequently, there's very little cursing involved, and they do get played on college radio, which is basically the only format on the airwaves which still makes use of disc jockeys.
Most college stations aren't that powerful and can't be heard far from the campus they transmit from.
Also, college radio stations fall into the same trap other stations do. They play only certain types of music. Every station has its format. Most college stations play the indie stuff that no one else plays for various reasons.
However, my point still stands. Language is one reason why some music does NOT get radio airplay. I never said that this was the stuff on eMusic. I was mearly making a point that radio (as it is now) will not play certain music because of the language in it (notably rap, hip-hop, and even some indie stuff.) When was the last time you heard Insane Clown Posse on the radio? They even admit they don't get airplay yet they still sell albums. If the CD carries a "Parental Advisory" label, kids buy it.
Also, college stations are not imune from the FCC so if there was an indie group that spouted off enough vulgarities in their song, the station would find itself in just a bit of trouble. | |
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