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| Is this motherboard phoning home ??
Is this motherboard phoning home ??
From IWILL's KK226R Manual is this sending out information ??
The site it says it connects to »home.phoenixnet.com/
Do you really have an option ??
You can get a copy of the manual from IWILL's site »www.iwillusa.com
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wheelert$93
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jfgnet
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How can they do this ?? When you go to their home page there is no mention of anything like this. You have to get the board and look into the manual or be unlucky setup board without reading manual an find out the hardway.:( |
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| This kind of reminds me of the big stink raised over Intel's Pentium III fiasco when it allowed the serial number of your processor to broadcast itself all over the place. They quickly gave us a little program to turn the little bugger off.
I'd send a quick email to the company and see what they say. I'd be willing to bet if more folks get wind of this, they'll quickly give you an option of turning it off.
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I just did some digging around and found this on their website. »www.phoenix.com/PlatSS/pcplatfor···ures.pdf
Is anyone else reading into this what I am? If so, this is not a good thing!
B. BIOS Security Services
Because external clients must access security information or functionality only the BIOS can provide,
PhoenixBIOS provides BIOS Security Services for both internal clients (such as Setup nodes) and external
clients not linked with the BIOS.
This new technology uses two tables, one that defines security states and the other that defines the
permissions under which access to a device is allowed. It is also possible to govern individual Setup items
with separate security provisions.
The BIOS Security Services provide a mechanism for external clients to extract information from the BIOS
or instruct the BIOS to perform a specific function.
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Fraggboy
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You wanted a 'NEW' Motherboard, didn't you?! Time to throw this one away..  |
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jfgnet
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clubs: | This is a brand new motherboard top of the line. Haven't installed yet, just got from FedEx yesterday. |
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jfgnet
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wheelert, I think I'm on the Outer Limits. They control the horizontal, they control the vertical. WTF we try to stop it from everyplace else, they start putting it on our system at the lowest level. |
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AllAlone0
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wow... I'm not amazed that they did something like this, but that someone actually read a manual. Thats just... odd. |
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To disable this, just uninstall Phoenix net in the OS, and in the bios change Phoenix net installed? to No. Phoenix net gets installed when you accept the defaults during mobo driver installation.
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jfgnet
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clubs: | Isn't this after the fact, the board's already phoned home and passed info then installed PheonixNet on the system and you aren't even given a choice. |
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| I'll agree it's after the fact...IF one did not read the manual first....which most of us don't do unfortunately  The old Plug and Pray works...but as you've pointed out, not just with software but with Hardware, we need to be diligent in our protection from prying eyes that are disguising themselves as individuals that mean well ! Some of which do mean well. At least there is an out for possibly not letting it happen a second time
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Well, yes, it is dirty, sneaky and underhanded, I guess you have to know to install the drivers manually rather than accept the defaults.
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Does anyone know exactly what information is being sent back without your permission ?? |
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No Limit
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My IWILL KK266-r motherboard uses an Award BIOS and not Phoenix so I am not worried about anything. |
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clubs: | All IWILL's use Award BIOS not Pheonix BIOS. PheonixNet is a service built into the Firmware of the board. PheonixNet is owned by Pheonix Technologies the company that makes Peonix BIOS. |
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Update went to PhoenixNet's site, this is a link to their partners »home.phoenixnet.com/boards/index2.html page that tells the motherboard companies incorporating this program. Also Award and Phoenix are the same company as per Award's Home Page »www.award.com/. |
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I just looked at the manual for the KK266-r motherboard. Found this.....
4.1 PhoenixNet Introduction
PhoenixNet is a service that provides PC users with best-of-breed,
free, software services to support their PC hardware and software
and to turn their computer into a powerful tool for communication,
entertainment, education and business
4.1.1 Internet Launch System
The PhoenixNet Internet Launch System (ILS) is a patent-pending
technology built into the firmware to enable online
PC users worldwide to communicate with PhoenixNet and to
receive the free PhoenixNet services. ILS resides safely
within ROM and is activated the first time a user launches a
PhoenixNet-enabled PC with a Windows 98 Operating
System.
4.1.2 PhoenixNet Online Services
When the PhoenixNet ILS detects an Internet connection, it
makes contact with the PhoenixNet server and delivers user-selectable
services from PhoenixNet’s Internet Partners.
These services are delivered to the user as hotlinks on the
desktop and in the web browser or, as applications that
PhoenixNet automatically packages, downloads and
installs.
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| said by wheelert:
4.1.1 Internet Launch System
The PhoenixNet Internet Launch System (ILS) is a patent-pending technology built into the firmware to enable online
PC users worldwide to communicate with PhoenixNet and to
receive the free PhoenixNet services. ILS resides safely
within ROM and is activated the first time a user launches a
PhoenixNet-enabled PC with a Windows 98 Operating
System.
4.1.2 PhoenixNet Online Services
When the PhoenixNet ILS detects an Internet connection, it
makes contact with the PhoenixNet server and delivers user-selectable services from PhoenixNet’s Internet Partners.
These services are delivered to the user as hotlinks on the
desktop and in the web browser or, as applications that
PhoenixNet automatically packages, downloads and
installs.
And who determines if you want this service activated ??
And if I turn it off can it be turned on remotely like PIII serial #'s ?? |
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No Limit
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Ugh. I knew I should have bought an ASUS board. This is like Office XP where your registration information along with your computer configuration will be sent to Microsoft to validate your keycode. |
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jfgnet
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clubs: | Check the partners link above ASUS is a partner also, I don't know which boards that PhoenixNet are incorporated on though. |
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