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scott492002

join:2003-10-27

reply to oliphant5
Re: Typical Telco market manipulation

When was the last time any clec invested any money in the dsl network? As far as I'm concerned clecs are the parasite that was mentioned earlier. What other company subsidises (sp) their competitors? Would GM subsidise Yugo for example? I think not. Let the clecs buy their own dsl equip and quit sucking the life out of the bell companies.


oliphant5
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What are you talking about? THEY PAY FOR THE ACCESS. Do you not watch cable? You don't see competitors channels being broadcast by the cable operators? What, is Cox Communications and Time Warner subsidizing Comcast because they carry the Comcast owned E! Entertainment Network?

What, is Fedex subsidizing the US Postal Service because the USPS uses Fedex planes to deliver air cargo?

What nonsense.
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[text was edited by author 2003-10-27 16:17:39]

fkittred

join:2002-01-24
Biddeford, ME
reply to scott492002

Many DSL providers buy all the equipment. Please update
your information.

regards,
fletcher

pyro_527

join:2002-05-05
Palatka, FL

reply to oliphant5
So, what you are saying is that clec ABC leases the lines from BellSouth but it is BellSouth\'s responsibility to put DSL service to their customer? Please....If they lease the line then it is their problem.....but, I do think that the ILEC\'s would want to provide service and at least make some of the revenue that they would have lost otherwise. Line sharing isn't something that is new to the industry. The technology has been there but never been taken advantage of.
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oliphant5
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No, it's that line sharing is the current rules and has nothing to do with telcos forcing customers to keep local service with the crappy telco in order to obtain DSL.

One has NOTHING to do with the other. They are losing customers to competitors in voice service so like Comcast, they come up with this blackmail scheme. It's crap.
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Cybertoad

join:2001-11-08
Houston, TX

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said by scott492002 See Profile:
When was the last time any clec invested any money in the dsl network? As far as I'm concerned clecs are the parasite that was mentioned earlier. What other company subsidises (sp) their competitors? Would GM subsidise Yugo for example? I think not. Let the clecs buy their own dsl equip and quit sucking the life out of the bell companies.
You do realize that is MORE a reason for SBC, BellSouth,
and others to provide dry DSL runs !!!

Give customers and option to buy their DSL direct
from the source even if their phone service is elsewhere.

I would think the Bells would be anxious to tap an
otherwise untapped market getting those who aren't
interested in phone service but want DSL. At the
present, that market is totally lost.

pyro_527

join:2002-05-05
Palatka, FL

reply to oliphant5
So, you are going to go to Walmart and demand that they make Kmart open up 5 packages of underwear so you can buy a package of all red rather then having to get what you get when you buy the package.
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said by pyro_527 See Profile:
So, you are going to go to Walmart and demand that they make Kmart open up 5 packages of underwear so you can buy a package of all red rather then having to get what you get when you buy the package.

This isn't about picking and choosing colors. This would be like you wanted to buy underwear at Walmart and Walmart forcing you to also buy overpriced socks at the same time. If you didn't want the socks, too bad, you can't buy underwear.

It doesn't fly in retail and it shouldn't fly with the telco monopolies.
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-- Munis Killed the Telco Star -- Powered by Barry McKockenner Racing in association with Jack Mikkokov Motorsports

[text was edited by author 2003-10-28 11:12:32]
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