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vic102482
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join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD

This is realy great for helping the economy

No really.....it is. There are already 5 other fees and universal taxes on web access. And how the HELL do you tax web access? They are already taxing ISPs for their revenue. Comcast and verizon dont take in 10 billion or whatever annually from internet connection sales and pay nothing. So they want to tax their (ISPs) income AND web access?

Everyone pays sales tax on internet connections right? This would mean that there would be an additional unrelated web tax?
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Raydr
Premium,MVM
join:2000-11-19
Carrollton, TX

Re: This is realy great for helping the economy

What they want to tax is sales made over the internet.

You buy something on eBay, you'll pay sales tax.
You buy something on an online store, you'll pay sales tax.

etc.
vic102482
Premium
join:2002-04-30
Upper Marlboro, MD

Re: This is realy great for helping the economy

said by Raydr See Profile:
What they want to tax is sales made over the internet.

You buy something on eBay, you'll pay sales tax.
You buy something on an online store, you'll pay sales tax.

etc.
Sadly I wish you were right.....

which imposes a federal ban on state and local taxes on Internet access services *and* certain Internet-based sales transactions

Internet access services like VOIP, this means that they can tax it as a telecom serice (like verizon) and then DOUBLE tax it for web access, not to mention the ADDITIONAL web sales tax!

WTF are these states trying to do here? Everyones verizon bill would go from 29.99 to 32 bucks for standard sales tax and maybe 37 after all of said taxes.

Cell phone bills already suffer for this. I pay city, county, and state tax on my cell. 39.99 = 47.95 per month here in maryland after taxes.
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jethrogump
Premium
join:2001-03-02
Mesquite, TX

Re: This is realy great for helping the economy

This is almost a tax to help the following with Big bad Lobbies in Washington and all Government.

1. Walmart/K mart/Target(loss of sales to a little guy online and Ebay)
2. Usual Suspects: SBC, Verizon and their Klan.

Walmart probably thinks this is Cool as selling themselves as all American when they are a China junk store.
jsouth
Jsouth

join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS

Re: This is realy great for helping the economy

Kmart a big Lobbiest. LOL that is a good one.

J D McDorce
Premium
join:2001-12-29
Westland, MI

Re: This is realy great for helping the economy

They must have connections somewhere, since they were able to shaft all of their former stockholders without going out of business.
Beeper
Part Of The Problem

join:2001-09-27
Dayton, OH
clubs:

said by jethrogump See Profile:

Walmart probably thinks this is Cool as selling themselves as all American when they are a China junk store.
The Pringles I bought there didn't come from China.

Otherwise, yes, Wal-Mart is a GUI for Chinese products.
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jackabyteinc

join:2002-07-04
Dayton, OH

Re: This is realy great for helping the economy

The can did!
lesopp

join:2001-06-27
Land O Lakes, FL


Will it ever end?

Consider the following: (excludes a large variety of internet taxes that could be created by cunning politicians)

Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
Capital Gains Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Court Fines (indirect taxes)
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money)
Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Local Income Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Septic Permit Tax
Service Charge Taxes
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Taxes (Truckers)
Sales Taxes
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Road Toll Booth Taxes
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee (indirect tax)
Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes
Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax
Telephone recurring and nonrecurring charges tax
Telephone State and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Toll Bridge Taxes
Toll Tunnel Taxes
Traffic Fines (indirect taxation)
Trailer registration tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax

Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
[text was edited by author 2003-10-28 13:12:22]

Stewy85
Premium
join:2003-01-16
Sharon, WI
clubs:

Re: Will it ever end?

Well.....that ruined my day.

I knew that there were tons of taxes but......DAMN!
Cybertoad

join:2001-11-08
Houston, TX
It sounds to me like it is time to throw another
tea party.

UnKown
The Underground Network

join:2002-09-08
Orlando, FL

Re: Will it ever end?

"It sounds to me like it is time to throw another
tea party."

I say we dress up as Terrorists this time and call ourselves the brothers of Liberety

PhoenixDown
-- Wants FIOS
Premium
join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
clubs:

Re: This is realy great for helping the economy

I have a $39.99 cell phone plan and pay $10 in taxes and surcharges -- 25%!!

FEDERAL TAX 1.34
STATE TAX 1.85
LOCAL TAX 1.90
911 SURCHARGE 1.20
NY CITY UTILITY G.R. SUR .82
LOCAL WIRELESS SURCHARGE .30
UNIVERSAL CONNECTIVITY CHARGE .87
GROSS RECEIPTS SURCHARGE 1.76
TOTAL TAXES, SURCHARGES & REGULATORY FEES 10.04

ON a side note: Is there a place I can check to see if this is right?
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icebike

join:2000-04-11
Juneau, AK

said by Raydr See Profile:
What they want to tax is sales made over the internet.

You buy something on eBay, you'll pay sales tax.
You buy something on an online store, you'll pay sales tax.

etc.
Except you forgot something....
Article 1, Section 9, Clause 5: No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.

Don't you just hate it when that little something called "The Constitution" gets in the way of your pet
world-view"

n2jtx

join:2001-01-13
Glen Head, NY
·Optimum Online

Re: This is realy great for helping the economy

said by icebike See Profile:
said by Raydr See Profile:
What they want to tax is sales made over the internet.

You buy something on eBay, you'll pay sales tax.
You buy something on an online store, you'll pay sales tax.

etc.
Except you forgot something....
Article 1, Section 9, Clause 5: No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.

Don't you just hate it when that little something called "The Constitution" gets in the way of your pet
world-view"
True but the Constitution has essentially been moot since 1933 when emergency powers were given to FDR and have continued to this day. Heck, New York State has a constitutional ban on gambling yet the Governor has been working overtime to get around it by teaming up with Native American tribes and taking a percentage of their income. When you get right down to it now, the Constitution is just a piece of paper that is probably more valuable for its status as an antique than the words that are written on it.
xrobertcmx
Premium
join:2001-06-18
Sterling, VA
clubs:
·Verizon FIOS
·Comcast

Re: This is realy great for helping the economy

said by n2jtx See Profile:
Heck, New York State has a constitutional ban on gambling yet the Governor has been working overtime to get around it by teaming up with Native American tribes and taking a percentage of their income. When you get right down to it now, the Constitution is just a piece of paper that is probably more valuable for its status as an antique than the words that are written on it.
Not exactly. Gambling is normally done on the reservation, which is in effect either Federal property or a foreign country. Not sure exactly. And that means that NY has no legal authority there.
Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ

this will hurt the economy, many online stores arent geared to handle the tax systems of 50 states let alone all the counties and cities who have sales tax. and i thought internet access was taxed allready, what is "web access" and how is it different from internet, sounds to me like a get rich quick and spend it all plan by the states.
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jackabyteinc

join:2002-07-04
Dayton, OH

Just like in Ohio, we are taxed to hell. Our state just started taxing the hell out of everything not nailed down and then some. By next 2 years our sales tax is going to be 12.5 cents on the dollar(from 6.5 cents), that is high by any standard. They did this tax hike without anyone knowing about it, saying it was done to help our state economy. Now our local city has raised our taxes to the highest in this part of the state also. Now more taxes on internet access and e-commerce will break the bank(us) worse than we already are. We are stretched too far and about to break. Its like getting water from a stone. When its broke tax it, that is their solution to everything. We are going back to Medieval times of fighting off the the tax man sent from the local Lord(laugh it up, because it is already happening). They are taxing those of us that already are hurting because of job loss since that raccoon looking Prez of ours has become some sort of dictactor now with congress giving him and his administration full power to do what they wish which is against the Constitution(they would roll over in their graves if they new this was happening!) I thought we claimed Independence from England for this type of crap! People need to start speaking up and making these politicians do what they are supposed to. Money talks though. Just saying what all of you already know, a redundant comment I guess.
jackabyteinc

join:2002-07-04
Dayton, OH

Re: This is realy great for helping the economy

Just posted and went out and got the mail, low and behold there is a new tax hike levy of about $200 a year more on top of the new tax hike of $800 a year that they just imposed that they want passed November 4th. What are we going to do!!!!!!!! Every few months there are new taxes for all of us. Now what happens if the Web access and e-commerce taxes go in effect? We need a US tea party(not Boston haha!).
Kearnstd
Elf Wizard
Premium
join:2002-01-22
Mullica Hill, NJ
buy stuff online and somehow forget to declare it in april.
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