Sarick
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|  More trusted computing blunders
More Digital Rights trusted computing blunders. the only thing this protects is the consumer from using their data.
The real hackers pirates will find ways around it.
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Omega
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Are they saying we can no longer record our programs?
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ArchAngel21x
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Lincoln, NE | The way I understand it, you can still record the programs like many people still do with the VCR. It's just if you try to distribute the program on the Internet it will be corrupted.
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NOVA_Guy
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| said by ArchAngel21x  :
The way I understand it, you can still record the programs like many people still do with the VCR. It's just if you try to distribute the program on the Internet it will be corrupted.
So how will this work? If I use my DVR to record the program, then copy the resulting file to my PC to watch it will it be corrupted? What if I want to change formats and copy it over to my PocketPC or my Archos Jukebox Multimedia to watch during an airplane flight? That's all just time-shifting for personal use/enjoyment and is perfectly legal under Fair Use.
And if I can copy a file to my PC, PocketPC, or MP3 player to watch it, what's stopping me from sending the file to anyone else? I don't see how a technology can be created that lets me watch something on all the formats mentioned above yet makes it impossible for me to send the file to someone else for viewing... At least not with MPEG files-- I guess that the entire industry can shift toward the backwards digital rights "management" scheme used in WMP9.
I have serious concerns about how this is going to impact Fair Use. It will probably lead to some dramatic changes for the worse...
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ArchAngel21x
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| said by NOVA_Guy :
I have serious concerns about how this is going to impact Fair Use. It will probably lead to some dramatic changes for the worse...
Yeah, that's why the EFF is fighting this.
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Omega
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You can always copy the videos analog. Sure you will lose quality, but it's better than the whole program going corrupt.
Just pop the recorded program into the VCR, then record the output of your VCR with your TV tuner.
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ArchAngel21x
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| said by Omega :
Just pop the recorded program into the VCR, then record the output of your VCR with your TV tuner.
Yeah....just like I said in my post....
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richk_1957
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Minas Tirith |  reply to ArchAngel21x
I may be wrong (hope so)
But this is supposed to prevent people from recording TV shows & redistributing them [through whatever media]
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TheHelpful1
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Re: More trusted computing blunders
Basically it says that whatever you record it ON is the only thing you can play it back on.
God help you if the original digital recorder breaks down and you have weeks upon weeks of recorded material that are now inaccessible because of the encryption.
Guess that means you have to put out MORE money to BUY back what was originally FREE.
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Sarick
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Either way a few companies are fighting it tooth and nail.
Microsoft wants power of this tech, Real Networks and sun are just a few crying foul play.
»news.com.com/2100-1025-5103601.h···efd_lede
People don't realize it but the new pay Napster, Kazaa and iTunes are setting a trend the big brother is going to rule with an iron fist sooner than we think.
»www.extremetech.com/article2/0,3···3,00.asp
Take for instance the recent change in DVD players. Where you can't fast forward on the DVDs YOU OWN.
Another example is how TiVo, and dish network charge fees for DVR/PVR recording hardware. This stuff used to be free in some cases. Even though recording shows isn't a new Idea.
The next step in the world of digital rights is nullifying the right to fast forward TV you recorded.
Yea they want POWER over what and when you watch TV. They want money to force your hands even if the stuff is released.
It all STINKS!!
"Fair use appears to be getting trampled by content owners (yet again)." Dave Salvator
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ArchAngel21x
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| For me this new technology really doesn't matter. If I like a show enough to want to keep the episodes I will buy them on DVD. As for the companies controlling what I can do with the DVDs I bought (fast forward through intro junk for example) that's when I get pissed off.
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Sarick
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USA | It's already getting done with Disney movies. You put it in and your forced to watch the previews and advertisements at the start of the movie. |
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TheHelpful1
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Upper Marlboro, MD |  So...duup a "backup" copy and cut out the fat 
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