cyberthugin
join:2002-03-12
Kew Gardens, NY
| From Music to Movies
Stupid Law
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gargzo
How You Doin?
join:2000-11-02
South Bend, IN | Ok I got the handbasket. Now where did you say we are going?
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ronpin
Imagine Reality
join:2002-12-06
Nirvana | Why not just shoot 'em then we can show the world "we believe in the rule of law" |
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shstrang
join:2003-01-10
West Monroe, LA
| reply to cyberthugin
Okay. So since I don't use file trading services, I have a hardware firewall and I do share out files inside my home network, then how can anyone see those files unless they have hacked into my network thus already breaking the law?
Please answer me this. |
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shstrang
join:2003-01-10
West Monroe, LA |  reply to gargzo
quote:
Ok I got the handbasket. Now where did you say we are going?
A relocation you say? |
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draven
Premium,Mod
join:2002-02-20
my bunker
Host:
General Questions
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| reply to shstrang
said by shstrang  :
Okay. So since I don't use file trading services, I have a hardware firewall and I do share out files inside my home network, then how can anyone see those files unless they have hacked into my network thus already breaking the law?
I believe the law takes into assumption the perpetrator is using a P2P service and therefore is openly displaying the files to the world. Otherwise you are correct, they would have to use shady tactics to get into your machine.
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craiglester
Mandrake , Gp. Capt
join:2003-05-02
Denver, CO
|  reply to cyberthugin
Hmm trying to catch us via a loophole here
Way i See it is this, Bit torrent, Kazaa Emule etc all share a file automatically as you start to download it - therfore they're trying to make downloading a felony, as you can't do one without the other..
This way all those people who say I only download I never share files are liable now to prosecution.
I have seen "hacked" versions of most of these types of Program and all most of them do is disable upload, but the file is still in your shared directory, and if a machine tries to connect to you to download that file then does that prove you have it in a shared directory, even if upload is disabled? a very shaky position to be in legally if this law is passed.
I think this whole law isn't really just to stop sharing - it's to stop downloading too.
And frankly that scares me, what next? no net access without a secure key issued by the MPAA or RIAA so they can monitor us? |
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hybridmath
join:2003-11-13
Providence, RI
| reply to cyberthugin
Re: From Music to Movies
Bull***t this goverment is abusing their powers they took out saddam for less then what their doing. my god what next you cant leave your house without taking the mark of the beast. people need to wake up and take up arms for real. i'm glad i dont go and fight for a country like this. it's all political and little by little their taking all our freedoms. You watch soon they'll say take the mark or die. this is all abuse of power. im gonna get the hell out of dodge soon 4 real. |
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joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL
| said by hybridmath :
Bull***t this goverment is abusing their powers they took out saddam for less then what their doing. my god what next you cant leave your house without taking the mark of the beast. people need to wake up and take up arms for real. i'm glad i dont go and fight for a country like this. it's all political and little by little their taking all our freedoms. You watch soon they'll say take the mark or die. this is all abuse of power. im gonna get the hell out of dodge soon 4 real.
I love posts like this. When are you "gonna get the hell out of dodge"? I always like to follow up, so if you could post when you are moving and where you are moving to, I'd be extremely interested. Plus your experiences could provide valuable insight to others contemplating such an action, but not quite bold enough to declare their intention.
Honestly, I've been a little disappointed so far in people who post they are leaving the country for some reason or the other. The last one posted he was moving to Canada if Cable providers kept soft caps, yet despite repeated questioning by me, he refused to provide any information on when he was leaving. This time, I know I won't be disappointed because you said you are leaving "4 real".
So, when are you leaving and where are you going? |
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morbo
Complete Your Transaction
join:2002-01-22
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| said by joebear29 :
said by hybridmath :
Bull***t this goverment is abusing their powers they took out saddam for less then what their doing. my god what next you cant leave your house without taking the mark of the beast. people need to wake up and take up arms for real. i'm glad i dont go and fight for a country like this. it's all political and little by little their taking all our freedoms. You watch soon they'll say take the mark or die. this is all abuse of power. im gonna get the hell out of dodge soon 4 real.
I love posts like this. When are you "gonna get the hell out of dodge"? I always like to follow up, so if you could post when you are moving and where you are moving to, I'd be extremely interested. Plus your experiences could provide valuable insight to others contemplating such an action, but not quite bold enough to declare their intention.
Honestly, I've been a little disappointed so far in people who post they are leaving the country for some reason or the other. The last one posted he was moving to Canada if Cable providers kept soft caps, yet despite repeated questioning by me, he refused to provide any information on when he was leaving. This time, I know I won't be disappointed because you said you are leaving "4 real".
So, when are you leaving and where are you going?
give the guy a break. the main point of his post was that our freedoms are being slowly taken away and that the country was lied to about the war with iraq.
instead of nit picking him with "when are you going to leave??" why not respond to his main points? |
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
| reply to hybridmath
We took out Saddam for less? Since when was a file sharer ever seen torturing people? When was the last time a file sharer put someone in a room with an intricate PVC pipe system designed to drip acid at random points of the room causing the person to run around the room until they drop of exhaustion then killed slowly as the acid then drips on them? When was the last time a file sharer held back an entire nation of people?
You don't fight for a country like this because your a coward. They're taking your freedoms because you're letting them.
Please get the hell out of dodge as you put it. And do it soon, you'll make the world a better place to live. |
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richk_1957
If ..Then..Else
Premium
join:2001-04-11
Minas Tirith
|  reply to craiglester
Not exactly...
I've only used Kazaa & Limelight, but in both of them, you could specify the 'shared' and 'downloaded' folders, as well as the number of concurrent downloads [I don't know if
you can set that to zero]
So, if you don't want to get in trouble, have a separate download & shared folder and keep the shared folder either empty or full of public, non-copyrighted music (yes, there IS some out there)
And as for "no net access without a secure key issued by
the MPAA or RIAA so they can monitor us?"
Shudder 
Don't give them ideas! |
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Z1N67
Legend Of Z1n6 Sexual Prous Spread?
Premium
join:2003-10-15
Ukraine
| reply to hybridmath
Re: From Music to Movies
NOTE: this is in response to the post by cyberthugin
Re: From Music to Movies
people need to wake up and take up arms for real. i'm glad i dont go and fight for a country like this. it's all political and little by little their taking all our freedoms. You watch soon they'll say take the mark or die. this is all abuse of power. im gonna get the hell out of dodge soon 4 real.
NOTE: this a post by Z1N6
Z1N6 agrees my brother! Gun is the answer. I ain't goin out like that. I aint goin out.Usual times I live with that. No more |
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joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL
| reply to morbo
said by morbo :
give the guy a break. the main point of his post was that our freedoms are being slowly taken away and that the country was lied to about the war with iraq.
instead of nit picking him with "when are you going to leave??" why not respond to his main points?
Because I really didn't understand what he was trying to say, although I did get he is angry and leaving.
Regardless, if someone posts they are leaving the country (I assumed, since this is a Federal law) because of X, I don't think it's nitpicking to be curious as to more details - especially when I don't really understand the original rant. |
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hobbesk
join:2002-03-24
Seattle, WA
| reply to Wills
Apparently, file traders ARE TORTURING, RAPING, PILLAGING the poor little defenseless RIAA CEO's and their cronies. Thus the Gallant Chivalrous U.S. Government has to step in and Defend all the Fat Little Pigs that are being Tortured, Raped, and Pillaged by the evil File sharers. |
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averagedude
join:2002-01-30
Mesa, AZ | reply to ronpin
Back to the Past
It is like we are in a bad western movie.
Just call out the Sheriff and blow away the varmint, and save the courts the time of finding out if you actually did anything wrong. |
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AnyOlTech
join:2003-10-30
Oakland, CA
| reply to Wills
Re: From Music to Movies
People who say they are going to leave the country aren't. If you were really upset enough to leave, you would. How about if something upsets so much that you would blast the country that gives you the freedom to rant openly, then how about you stand up and take the fight to the government and help repeal the laws and regulations which draws your ire.
If you have any love for the country, you would fight to defend it. This means fighting with the military, or fighting with the people who follow your same ideology to make changes in our nation's laws.
If your not willing to fight for the country then please leave -- your sucking up resources our country could be using somewhere else. If you need help leaving the country, send me a message and I will help with the arrangements. |
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fartness
Computersoc Dot Com
Premium
join:2003-03-25
Look Outside
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Cool, time for me to start making fake files.  |
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Jhon
join:2001-05-14
Northridge, CA
| reply to richk_1957
Re: Not exactly...
If I am reading the ARTP act correctly (Or would that be ART Prevention Act (heh)), you just need to have a COPY of the file. Sharing/distributing isn't required. You have it, BAMM -- $250k fine/time in jail.
Seems funny that I'd suffer harsher penalties under the law for having a copy of the Hulk 1 week before it opened than I would for beating the crap out of a stranger with a bat.
-j |
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joebear29
join:2003-07-20
Alabaster, AL
| said by Jhon :
If I am reading the ARTP act correctly (Or would that be ART Prevention Act (heh)), you just need to have a COPY of the file. Sharing/distributing isn't required. You have it, BAMM -- $250k fine/time in jail.
Seems funny that I'd suffer harsher penalties under the law for having a copy of the Hulk 1 week before it opened than I would for beating the crap out of a stranger with a bat.
-j
I dunno. If you beat the crap out of the stranger with a bat, you'd go to jail no matter what.
If you shared a single copy of the Hulk as a first time offender, I doubt seriously you'd face more than a fine. |
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