DVOOR8
join:2001-12-24
USA
 ·Optimum Online
| reply to M A R K
Re: OOL Spam Problems ( SOLVED )
To accept this as a realistic solution to the horrendous mail issue it an absolute joke. OOL mail is a complete disgrace and complacency on the part of the subscribers allows them to get away with what is paramount to fraud. For anyone to say that mail is an extra and shouldnt be reliable is way out of touch with reality. |
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gquiring
I Did It My Way
Premium
join:2001-04-07
Matawan, NJ
 ·Verizon FIOS
·Optimum Online
| reply to steveness
said by steveness  :
The tech I spoke to yesterday through the tech chat yesterday told me that OptOnline is working on a new mail server that will be more stable with less spam
That was the same line Rick used 2 years ago when my OOL mail was down. It's never going to happen until they get some competition. Then maybe they will invest the $$$ to fix it.
Another day and all I see is AUTHENTICATION errors......
OOL BLOWS!!!! |
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koam
Pink Pecker
Premium
join:2000-08-16
East Puddle
clubs:
 ·Shoreham Telephone
 ·ViaTalk
 ·surpasshosting
| reply to M A R K
My primary OOL account gets tons of spam and i don't use it at all.
My subaccount email accounts on OOL all get no spam (if they do it's a negligible amount..but i don't notice that they do). I chose the addresses on the subaccounts so that they would not be easily found in a dictionary search, combining letters and numbers. I don't even have SpamAway turned on for those accounts. I'm careful about what I sign up for using them of course - or I'd be getting spam on them too. OOL won't let me change my primary account or i'd get rid of that too.
To me, it's not OOL that gets lots of spam. It's the email address that I choose at OOL and how much and how carefully that I use it.
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I dumped Verizon DSL and got OOL. Smartest thing I ever did...Dude, you're gettin' a gut. |
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jefe
Premium
join:2001-05-19
Northport, NY
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to RickNY
Rick....
This is by no means a scientific survey but, my two cents worth:
My OOL email account is about 30 months old. I have NEVER used it for anything. Nada. Not once. I just used web mail to look at my inbox and it has 3586 spam messages, the oldest dated 8/28/03.
I use attglobal as my working email account. They have Brightmail too. That email address has been propagated everywhere over 6 or 7 years, since it was ibm.net before AT&T bought that network. I get something like a dozen spamgrams in my attglobal inbox every 24 hours. By comparison, over the last 90 days, or so, I've average 40 junk messages getting through to my OOL account.
I can't explain this, it's just an observation. But one more thing. Both of my email addresses are plain English. The idea of using an email address that isn't likely to be found in a dictionary attack is great, unless you have to give your email address to people all the time. It just won't work when someone asks me for my email address for me to say it's "w!_x5B42-a#$g." That would result in too many blank stares.
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Elite
join:2002-10-03
Orange, CT | reply to M A R K
I just use my domain's email account. 3 Months with no spam. I also don't sign up for services or anything with that account. Its just used for emailing friends, ect.
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Optimum Online All The Way |
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mrchris
We don't miss you Bush
Premium
join:2002-10-01
North Babylon, NY | reply to ironwalker
I havn't gotten a single spam email since september or so (mine is a sub account, my brother's is the main account.)
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labsrus
join:2001-08-24
Mahwah, NJ
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to M A R K
My main account is getting worse daily (nearing 100 getting into my inbox every day) My sub accounts get absolutely no spam but I only check them through OOLs webmail and not very often .. I assume the suggestion would be to use one of them and not allow my main into my inbox (and send 200 people my new e-mail addy.) I am so fed up with it but then I look at AOL's new spam controls, if set it up wrong (very easily) you can wind up TOSing your own family literally just by deleting an email and I still acquire close to as much spam on AOL as I do on OOL. Is there truly an answer to the problem? I don't like the way OOL shrugs it off but when done too aggressively as AOL is right now it doesn't work properly anyway .. Damned if you do and damned if you don't?
My e-mail from my own domain gets absolutely no spam at all but the site is far from done and not accessed very much.
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DC Broadband
Stercus Tauri
Premium
join:2003-04-17
Stone Ridge, NY
clubs: 
| reply to mrchris
I have not gotten any spam at all since May. Also the mail server works just fine here. It seems that the people with the most mail server problems are from NJ?! Maybe OOL should do some updates there!!
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M A R K
Premium
join:2001-06-15
Long Island
clubs: | Im in eastern Long Island |
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labsrus
join:2001-08-24
Mahwah, NJ
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to M A R K
I have a question, not to sound computer illiterate. HOW do the hackers get the lists of OOL customers? The majority of my recvd spam is sent strictly to OOL clients in alphabetical order (i.e. if my e-mail address began with a b i get ba through ca CC'd in most of the spam e-mails.)
How do they acquire or "hack" the alphabetical lists? Many of the e-mail addys are uncommon as I mentioned before .. some are common, its a mixed bag from what I can see.
I'm sorry if I am asking a question that has been asked and answered before, I did a search and don't see a thread pertaining to it.
Have a good evening all ...
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frankie balz
join:2001-05-01
Garden City, NY | reply to mastermind278
love the new penis patch spam |
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labsrus
join:2001-08-24
Mahwah, NJ | reply to M A R K
there are a few new ones that are so exciting 
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labsrushttp://www.cherokeelabs.com |
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MEDIAN2k3
Where Ya Goin?
Premium
join:2002-12-04
Bronx, NY
clubs: | reply to M A R K
i wonder how much spam is in my ool email account right now, i havent used my e-ool for many months. |
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GXBuck
join:2003-11-10
Lindenhurst, NY
| reply to gquiring
"If they would blacklist some of the larger known Spammers"
And the problem with that, is that for the 1-2 spammers you "block" by that method, you will also end up blocking communcation for several hundred, to millions of users.
Or is the whole fiasco with AOL's block on OOL completely off your mind already? |
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M A R K
Premium
join:2001-06-15
Long Island
clubs:
| reply to frankie balz
or all the dugs i want from Africa and India..
But this is a huge problem that OOL needs to fix, i wonder when some one will fill complaints with the BBB because of this. Your not getting what you pay for, with regards to all the outages. I know there is really not much the can do about the spam.
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Clark in 2004 |
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Over644
join:2002-03-25
Bethpage, NY | reply to M A R K
Death to AOL and PeoplePC!!!! Take those two companies out and spam will decrease AT LEAST 80% guaranteed. |
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La Luna
Surviving Ashraful
Premium
join:2001-07-12
Warwick, NY
clubs:
·Optimum Online
·Vonage
| reply to DC Broadband
said by DC Broadband :
I have not gotten any spam at all since May. Also the mail server works just fine here. It seems that the people with the most mail server problems are from NJ?! Maybe OOL should do some updates there!!
Nope, I'm in New York state...right over the NJ border...Warwick NY Cablevision. I've been getting TONS of spam in the last month or so.....this is the FIRST time I've ever had a problem with any major amounts of spam in three years. I'm even getting crap that's not to my email address......similar, but not mine...how could that possibly be?
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TheWiseGuy
Dog And Butterfly
Premium,MVM
join:2002-07-04
Yonkers, NY
1 edit | said by La Luna :
I'm even getting crap that's not to my email address......similar, but not mine...how could that possibly be?
They Blind Carbon Copy (BCC) you.
It is actually recommended by anti-spam advocates that when you send to a list of users you use BCC so all the addresses are not seen. Unfortunately the spammers use it too.
Here is a link discussing this in detail.
»www.cs.rutgers.edu/~watrous/bcc-···acy.html
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Dog and Butterfly |
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Bichon
Premium,MVM
join:2002-10-10
Freehold, NJ
| reply to La Luna
said by La Luna :
I'm even getting crap that's not to my email address......similar, but not mine...how could that possibly be?
Are you talking about SPAM or real mail?
If SPAM, it isn't OOL's fault. Mail is delivered to the recipient given by the SMTP "rcpt to:" directive -- not necessarily the one(s) in the headers. There must be a spamming program that gets confused and includes the header from an earlier mail, because I regularly receive SPAM (at work, at my old dialup provider, etc.) addressed to people with names similar (alphabetically just before mine). I've never seen this happen with real mail. |
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Recluse
join:2001-10-30
Randolph, NJ
| reply to M A R K
I kept my mindspring.com dialup account so I could keep that email address. Mindspring/Earthlink seems to have BrightMail working fairly well. A lot of stuff definitely sneaks through, but I see my SPAM folder constantly catching hundreds of SPAM messages. On my OOL account (never used or publicized with the exception of a couple of shareware/website registrations) I see about the same amount of SPAM in the INBOX as I do in the Earthlink BULKMAIL folder. I dutifully MARK AS SPAM, but I don't know if this does anything other than just move to Bulk Mail.
The Earthlink/Mindspring Webmail by contrast has a nice feature where you can click on BLOCK and it will trash the Spam and add the sender to the BLOCK list, which with then trash every message from that sender. Granted, most SPAM has a forged FROM field, but I still get 3 or 4 a day blocked thanks to the auto-block.
I haven't done a rigorous comparison, but my impression is that the Earthlink/Mindspring implementation seems to be working considerably better than the OOL implementation. |
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