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MorWired
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Buddy list -- new format? or simply temporary?

If this is simply an "in transition" problem, please just lock this thread.

The buddy list no longer shows individual buddies, the last time seen, and links to their posts, and IMs -- all things I find extremely useful. Along with "Favorites" this is the page I use more than any other.

If the new format is to stay, would it be possible to give us an option of views as we have with the "Favorites" page?

Thanks.
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justin
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Just click on a name at the top, to get to persons page, with links to posts, IM box ready to use, time last seen, etc etc.

The main display is a combined list of new topics by all (b) entries, which is the important thing.


MorWired
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said by justin:
Just click on a name at the top, to get to persons page, with links to posts, IM box ready to use, time last seen, etc etc.

The main display is a combined list of new topics by all (b) entries, which is the important thing.
Thanks for your response Justin. Unfortunately, this new view takes away >90% of the functionality of the Buddies page for me. It was good to have access to everything/everyone on one page.

Also, without the old view available to me, there is absolutely NO reason to "watch" anyone, because I'm only watching them to see what new topics they have started, and whether they've been updated.

If only "Buddies" show on this new view, "watch" is useless for my purposes.
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MorWired
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reply to justin
Just a thought. Since the new "Buddy" view gives the same info for buddies that the "your posts" page shows, could this new view be combined there and the old buddy/watched page be restored?


justin
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reply to MorWired
The functionality is one click away: so the only facility lost is that on the old page, you could scroll down through a list of new topics from all "watched" people, instead of (now) doing this via a click and a back.

I could display a second box with all topics started by anyone you are watching, but lean towards it encouraging stalking -- if the other person has not set you as a buddy as well they may not wish you to monitor their topics with such ease. If you want to watch someones new topics that much, what is the problem with looking at their profile page from time to time?


MorWired
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said by justin:
The functionality is one click away: so the only facility lost is that on the old page, you could scroll down through a list of new topics from all "watched" people, instead of (now) doing this via a click and a back.
For me, the functionality was having all the information I needed for both "Buddies" and "Watched" people available in one convenient place, at a glance.
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said by justin:
I could display a second box with all topics started by anyone you are watching, but lean towards it encouraging stalking -- if the other person has not set you as a buddy as well they may not wish you to monitor their topics with such ease. If you want to watch someones new topics that much, what is the problem with looking at their profile page from time to time?
Since the information is, as you say, easy to obtain, what's the difference? The only reason I "watch" people (until they select me also, and therefore become "buddies") is because I find their posts interesting and am interested in threads they're starting -- if that's stalking and discouraged, then what is "Watched" supposed to be used for?
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fire100_old
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reply to justin
I really liked the old format, but as with all the changes I am going to roll with it.

But I do have a request, one of the nice things about the old format, is the post were grouped by name.

If you keep it this way, is it possible to group the post by name? With maybe a space between the buddies names.
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Tom Native New Yorker
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reply to MorWired
Well, obviously you aren't going to change it back to the way it was a few weeks ago, so can you at least make the list on top appear in alphabetical order?
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davidg
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reply to MorWired
the main thing i used was the last time they were online.

also, isn't a "watched" list supposed to show you their posts by definition?


Darwin
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reply to MorWired
said by MorWired:
For me, the functionality was having all the information I needed for both "Buddies" and "Watched" people available in one convenient place, at a glance.
I agree completely. While most of the changes made to DSLR in the last month can be considered improvements (once I finally got used to them), this one is definitely a step backward in my opinion.

What was so wrong with the old buddy list format?
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Macy
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I agree with Darwin. The old format was like a one stop shop, even though I had a gripe about all the posts showing which made the page much longer...I was just starting to get used to it.
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reply to MorWired
Ugh.....add this to the growing number of features that have been implemented which actually lose functionality.

Sitemarking (but not following) now takes half a dozen steps and now this new "feature" just throws all the posts on a page with no semblance of order.

Can't wait for the next round of "features".
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reply to Macy
said by Macy:
I agree with Darwin. The old format was like a one stop shop, even though I had a gripe about all the posts showing which made the page much longer...I was just starting to get used to it.

I too like the old format.
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Michael
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Canada
said by woogie:
I too like the old format.

Here's hoping the old format will return!
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MorWired
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said by Michael:
said by woogie:
I too like the old format.

Here's hoping the old format will return!

As I mentioned above, especially if other people find the new view useful, an option of views like on the Favorites page would be a good compromise, and much appreciated.
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reply to MorWired
I use my buddy list to keep track of friends and when they were on last. It would be nice to have a complete listing of who was on and when they were on. I understand that the dots do the same thing, but it's nicer to view an exact number.
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Zero Gravity
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Top Floor
reply to MorWired
I can't stand this change. Please put it back to the old format.


elias
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Miami, FL
reply to justin
I understand your reasoning behind the new format for the buddies page.

However, I find that the old style was much more useful. I'm not a post stalker by any means, but there is a group of people that are always starting topics. Having them on my watch page makes it easy to check out their new threads.

This works well in both regular forums and entertainment forums.

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Jaime
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Huntington Beach, CA
reply to MorWired
I like the newer format, now it shows the last time they were online, which I would use a lot. Thanks.
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Weirdal
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reply to MorWired
I dont like it either, i dont think anybody knows what to do with the buddy list.
but i too like the old format better, i could see the posts made by my watched people too.
i say change it back, but only show the updated topics under the buddy's section
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MrFixIT
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here
reply to MorWired
I don't like this change either.


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Im not so sure Justin cares though. Thats unfortunate.


marti
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reply to Jaime
The newest version meets my requirements.


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reply to MorWired
Can anyone explain why on our buddy list, there needs to be a yellow envelope before the buddies or watched persons name?

Clicking on the envelope sends us to a page to write an instant message to that person. However, clicking on the persons name does the same thing pretty much.
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justin
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said by login name:
pretty much.

« answers his own question.


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Actually, it doesnt justin. Its basically senseless to me.

Regardless of which one I click on, it brings me to a page where I can write an instant message to the person right at the top of it, so what is the difference?
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Jaime
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The only difference I can see is the envelope will also your IM history with your buddy.
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Well that certainly makes this new feature worth its weight in gold.


bobrk
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reply to MorWired
I don't like this change at all. I don't use the feature that much, but I was quite bewildered to find essentially no information on the page. I have mostly watched people, and there were no posts, no last visited, nothing. I'm not a stalker, but I have watches on people who I think make good posts and are entertaining to read. I think it's more important to be able to look at someone's posts than their page.

edit: Ok, half fixed. The last visited times are there now.

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slash
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reply to MorWired
Definitely not a big fan of this change.