JacksGhost
Got Bottle?
join:2002-12-29
Buffalo, NY
| reply to mike90069
Re: Price hikes causing cancellations in socal
said by mike90069  :
No one else besides Adelphia provides a television signal through the cable that runs into my home. Hence, a monopoly by any definition. Perhaps that has eased your struggle.
So MSO's should be forced to share their property with others? Can I borrow your car and Hook my NOS system to it? I'll only Jet it out to .042 and run it dry with no additional fuel. I wont 'tard the timing either. Should be fair! You paid for it so someone else can use it!!!
It will only go 'boom' once.. I swear. 
jAX
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Hickerx2
God Bless The U.S. Military
join:2001-03-04
Franklinville, NY
| reply to mike90069
To be fair, after posting in several other MSO's forums, I've reached the conclusion that Adelphia's prices are pretty much in line with everybody else's.
I didn't see more than a $10 difference between any of them. Not a scientific study, but effective.
I still think it's ridiculous, but no more ridiculous than anybody else's rates. |
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kfsutops
Premium
join:2002-08-19
Brandon, FL
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| said by Hickerx2 :
To be fair, after posting in several other MSO's forums, I've reached the conclusion that Adelphia's prices are pretty much in line with everybody else's.
I didn't see more than a $10 difference between any of them. Not a scientific study, but effective.
I still think it's ridiculous, but no more ridiculous than anybody else's rates.
Did you look or get any response regarding how many channels for what #$? I can tell you my parents have TWC and we roughly the same, but I get a 3rd of the channels.
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Hickerx2
God Bless The U.S. Military
join:2001-03-04
Franklinville, NY
| said by kfsutops :
Did you look or get any response regarding how many channels for what #$? I can tell you my parents have TWC and we roughly the same, but I get a 3rd of the channels.
No, I didn't get into the packages.....I don't have that much free time 
Honestly, judging by my Adelphia lineup....I don't know how many more channels anybody could want. I know the lineup varies widely, but I can only go by my own. |
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Sunsetstrip
Go Kings
Premium,MVM
join:2000-07-08
West Hollywood, CA
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said by kfsutops :
I can tell you my parents have TWC and we roughly the same, but I get a 3rd of the channels.
Same here,I went to my Brothers for Thanksgiving and thought he had digital from TW he said no those are all analog channels and he pays $10 less than what Adelphia charges and has a onscreen guide that actually works !...mine has said "no listing" for the last two weeks 
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Rob
In Deo speramus, God Bless the USA
Premium
join:2001-08-25
Kendall, FL
 ·Comcast
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Well the quality has been better. The cable hardly ever goes out.
However, the digital cable goes out a lot. It's slow and sometimes nothing shows up.
Lately when I call Adelphia I get rude techs who don't want to help who make me fee like i'm wasting their time. I recently called to see if I could lower my plan and keep digital cable and I was helped by a rude person who after a few minutes said "look we sent you a rate card, whatever is on that card is the charge, do you want to order something?"
I will be taking my digital box in this week or next. I've been leaning towards DirectTV. |
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chrisbmoore
join:2003-08-28
Frederick, MD
| reply to rickten
Re: Cable MSO show
If used correctly is the key. But I do NOT and never did see crystal clear picture with my cable. Maybe yours is better than mine and if so, then you aren't missing anything, but otherwise, you are missing tons. The picture is 200 times better on satellite. |
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hobgoblin
Sortof Agoblin
Premium
join:2001-11-25
Orchard Park, NY
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| reply to mike90069
Re: Price hikes causing cancellations in socal
Mike90069 offered
"Let's play..whats more expensive?"
Yes lets.
"Cable or a cell network? Easy answer! Cell network. We have 6 major providers in SoCal where as once we only had two...over the past 5 years, prices have nose-dived and service has improved!"
Well whats the cost Mike? Lets see some figures if you want me to play your game.
As an economics expert you should not have much difficulty with that.
Off course if you set up a cell network anyone in the footprint can use your service thus giving you a far wider customer base to sell your service and get a return on your investment.
It appears you are comparing ducks with Owls.
Hob
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MacLeech
The one and only
Premium
join:2001-07-14
SoCal
| reply to kfsutops
said by kfsutops :
Did you look or get any response regarding how many channels for what #$? I can tell you my parents have TWC and we roughly the same, but I get a 3rd of the channels.
The problem there is the fact your Boynton Beach system is bandwidth starved because its upgrades aren't done. I vaguely remember your specific area being something like a 400 Mhz 1-way T&B system... After Adelphia upgrades systems they are commonly 860 Mhz 2-way HFC N+1 systems.
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Evals
join:2000-06-07
Hollis Center, ME | reply to mike90069
Here's how they'll make a profit......
»www.pressherald.com/business/sto···ef.shtml |
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mike90069
join:2003-07-28
West Hollywood, CA
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A cell network is an extraordinarily expensive endeavor. It requires thousands of expensive cells...and if you're network doesn't fully and completely cover a city, you won't have satisfied customers willing to pay the fee! It's certainly much more expensive to build a cell network than a cable network!
What was the response when cell networks were opened up to competition? Lots of people jumping in...all the majors!
When Chrysler developed the luxury SUV, which cost them no less than $2 billion, did the other car companies say "Gee...they already have one, we'd better not compete". Exactly the opposite...they went out and tried to create a better SUV, borrowing billions.
So why hasn't ANY of the major cable operators moved to compete with another major ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY?
C-O-L-L-U-S-I-O-N
Not costs.
It smells like collusion, it looks like collusion, it acts like collusion. |
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MacLeech
The one and only
Premium
join:2001-07-14
SoCal
| reply to rickten
Re: Cable MSO show
said by rickten :
I must be uneducated. How can cable be any better than satelite. They both can offer HDTV, they both can offer crystal clear picture, they both can offer guide systems, they both can incorporate DVR systems. In terms of tv I don't understand how either system is better in terms of what it can provide if used correctly.
More bandwidth, 2-way communications, and many time less latency in communications are three advantages cable has.
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danielhart
Everybody Wins, And All Must Have Prizes
Premium
join:2003-05-22
Los Angeles, CA
| reply to mike90069
Re: Price hikes causing cancellations in socal
.02 cents from a broadband war veteran in West Hollywood CA.
Over the past several years, I've had dial-up, Roadrunner cable, DSL with various Telco/CLECS, DirecWay satellite, and currently Adelphia Powerlink for internet access.
I have had MediaOne(later ATT cable), Adelphia analog and Adelphia digital for TV. Currently I have DirecTV for television.
IMHO, for this area, DirecTV is far superior to Adelphia digital cable for television, but if price is a major factor for you, it may not be the answer to all your problems. Basic packages with DirecTV are cheap, but if you want a lot of the bells and whistles stuff you will pay for it. Also, if you want more than one or two TV's hooked up, you will incur additional equipment costs at start-up and on a monthly basis. Beware of the sign-up package deals as well, as the dishes and boxes they will provide you are functional but oftentimes lower-end older model stuff. If you want digital audio, HDTV, or DVR you will shell out duckets. Plus they have a year commitment with penalty, and they are ruthless in their enforcement of it. They also restart the clock on your year anytime you add new equipment to your system. All of that said, if you are careful and do your homework, DirecTV provides a far superior product in regards to quality, service, and programming options. Dish Network has a good reputation as well, many little sat folk I know swear by it. I think it's a bit cheaper with some different programming options. You won't get NFL with Dish Network, but they have some stuff DirecTV does not. Lastly, as far as the distant network feeds (i.e., New York ABC, CBS,and FOX locals) you are highly unlikely to be able to get those unless you live in a very remote area do to complicated FCC regs that I don't want to get into in this post. There are ways to get them, but it's not easy.
As far as internet goes, in this area at this time, I think Powerlink is the best option, price notwithstanding. DSL can be great too, but I would stay away from SBC as CLEC ISP if at all possible. SBC Yahoo uses a garbage protocol for connection, and their techless support is basically useless (good tech folk on the SBC board excluded). Better to go with a quality ISP like Speakeasy or DSL Extreme with SBC or Covad as CLEC only. Stay away from satellite internet unless you have no other high speed options, lots of money, and the time/patience to learn more than you ever wanted to know about your internet connection. Dial-up is, well....dial-up. Cheap, slow, but functional.
I guess that was a bit more than .02 cents.....
peace
Daniel
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timeh
Premium
join:2002-11-29
Coudersport, PA
| reply to kfsutops
kfsutops stated:
"You're statement also reveals the underlying problem with Adelphia and the cable industry as a whole. They don't care. That attitude comes from the top down to the lowly old tech."
Well I also work for the company and i must say i care very much for the customer. I don't think there are many technicians or customer service agents that wouldn't go above and beyond there call of duty for a customer. In the profession of technical support you can't take call after call if you don't care about the customer because you would end up quitting. These guys that are on the phone take a lot of garbage and i give them credit. They understand your frustrations because not only do they hear it everyday but most of them have the cable service themselves.
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Meeble
join:2002-09-19
Champaign, IL
| said by timeh :
most of them have the cable service themselves.
Timeh
difference being they get it for free in some/most/all areas. |
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timeh
Premium
join:2002-11-29
Coudersport, PA | reply to mike90069
Meeble stated:
"difference being they get it for free in some/most/all areas."
You incorrect meeble i do not get the service for free. I'm not sure about other areas though.
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Mike33
Fcuk Bush
join:2003-07-23
Bandera, TX
| reply to mike90069
Hahahaha CABLE TV IS DOOMED. THE FUTURE IS SATELLITE. Satellite will be even better (if possible) once someone invents a low-earth orbit sat that works. Cable companies will have to survive only off cable internet. Just wait, you'll see.
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ih8ny
@adelphia.net
| reply to mike90069
Oh, this may explain the price hike:
---BUFFALO EVENING NEWS---
Two call centers in area survive cuts by Adelphia
12/4/2003
Adelphia Communications will preserve its call centers in Western New York, and perhaps add to them, as it closes teleservice offices elsewhere, company officials said.
The Denver-based cable company announced that it will consolidate 70 call centers into 11, cutting an undetermined number of jobs.
....The consolidation "allows us to create efficiencies and lets us serve customers more effectively," she said. "It's really the trend, not just in cable and satellite, to move call handling to larger centers."
Adelphia's call centers will remain in the United States, she said, and there are no plans at present to outsource the work to contractors.
Stull said she didn't know how many jobs will be eliminated nationwide. At some offices, workers who answer calls may be shifted to other tasks.
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It's "JUST A TREND". Maybe next year, we'll be talking to a call center in India or elsewhere, where the worker is paid $100 a month. That'll be worthy of another PRICE INCREASE to offset a few CEO's meager incomes. |
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ashakouri1
join:2002-08-23
Santa Monica, CA
| It's "JUST A TREND". Maybe next year, we'll be talking to a call center in India or elsewhere, where the worker is paid $100 a month. That'll be worthy of another PRICE INCREASE to offset a few CEO's meager incomes.
God I hope not, American Express moved some of their call centers to India and I honestly can't understand what some of them say and some of the Indian call centers have people that sound very very wierd. But I don't think India will be the answer in the long run, cause I read in LA Times or Economist or some type of news magazine that the call centers in India have one of the highest turn-over rates. So I guess Indians don't like working in call centers. |
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jagged
join:2003-07-01
Boynton Beach, FL
| reply to mike90069
of course they won't like working at call centers
i wouldn't work at one either
my boyfriend did and honestly for $12/hr i won't subject myself to pissed off customers yelling at me for 6 hours a day.
i can imagine with most people knowing the call center is india they aren't being too nice on the support over there.
i try to be but when i have to explain my problem 3 times because the person can't understand english well enough i lose my patience |
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