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ieee1394
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join:2001-08-25
Washington
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Prioritized service?

I was wondering and so I thought I'd wonder out loud here (without doing any research of course!).

I know how the bulk of Adelphia's consumer Powerlink customers are more concerned with high speeds uber alles but there's that small pocket of customers (like me) that is more concerned with performance. I'd be happy with 1500 down and say 384 or 512 up with better (consistent performance). So I'm wondering... Is it possible to create a prioritized service over the existing infrastructure? Could a service be created where we pay more (of course) but our packets get a higher priority than the other residential customers? I guess this would be a SOHO Pro service or something like that. For instance....1500/512 for $129/mth but higher priority.

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gabhart
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join:2002-06-29
Fredericksburg, VA
I think that would fall under the Adelphia Business Services, where speeds and repair turn around are guaranteed.

And yes, you pay a premium for that type of service!

Coolbrz

join:2002-12-16
Port Allegany, PA

reply to ieee1394
said by ieee1394 See Profile:
I was wondering and so I thought I'd wonder out loud here (without doing any research of course!).

I know how the bulk of Adelphia's consumer Powerlink customers are more concerned with high speeds uber alles but there's that small pocket of customers (like me) that is more concerned with performance. I'd be happy with 1500 down and say 384 or 512 up with better (consistent performance). So I'm wondering... Is it possible to create a prioritized service over the existing infrastructure? Could a service be created where we pay more (of course) but our packets get a higher priority than the other residential customers? I guess this would be a SOHO Pro service or something like that. For instance....1500/512 for $129/mth but higher priority.

Comments?

I wish Verzion offered a similar package as well, actually I would be satisfied with 1500/256 but as far as your question, I wouldn't hold my breath, perhaps a business class package would be the ideal way to go, but even then I do not think it would prioritized the way you want/need.

I can see where you are coming from though.


MacLeech
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SoCal


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said by ieee1394 See Profile:
Is it possible to create a prioritized service over the existing infrastructure? Could a service be created where we pay more (of course) but our packets get a higher priority than the other residential customers? I guess this would be a SOHO Pro service or something like that. For instance....1500/512 for $129/mth but higher priority.

Comments?

Its possible using the QoS abilities of DOCSIS 1.1 or 2.0. Its what is done for DOCSIS based VOIP gear... You can get different priorities and a dedicated percentage or minimum level of bandwidth allocated.

Adelphia hasn't enabled anything like that yet, but most of the equipment can handle it.

Take a peak at this:
»www.cisco.com/warp/public/109/mi···Set_Type
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RailRoadDude
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join:2002-04-02
Redwood Valley, CA
"Adelphia hasn't enabled anything like that yet"

Why not?


MacLeech
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said by RR Conductor See Profile:
"Adelphia hasn't enabled anything like that yet"

Why not?
Because at this point its not cost effective to reengineer the entire network to support it for the few who would pay for it.

Would you pay 2-3 times what you are paying now to have lower maximum speeds in exchange for a guaranteed minimum download speed of say 512 kbps, minimum upload speed of 128k, and latency of no more than 50 ms across Adelphia's network.
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RailRoadDude
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Didn't need a lecture there Mac I was just curious why they didn't have it yet


MacLeech
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said by RR Conductor See Profile:
Didn't need a lecture there Mac I was just curious why they didn't have it yet
No lecture intended.

Just pointing out that the minimums would be low and the price would be high, but that's the nature of guaranteed service levels. Profits through the calculated oversubscription of Residential Broadband services would be out the window and the companies would have to make up for it.
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gheezer
Compooters R Us
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join:2002-12-20
Henrietta, NY

reply to ieee1394
A guaranteed QoS is a necessity for VoIP services.

While Guaranteeing QoS for a handful of Data subscribers is doable, it's not economically feasible, and it's an engineering nightmare to guarantee their specific traffic on ALL devices in a large nationwide network.

VoIP traffic QoS configs, on the other hand, can be deployed en masse.
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ieee1394
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Washington
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said by MacLeech See Profile:
Adelphia hasn't enabled anything like that yet, but most of the equipment can handle it.

Okay, thanks. That's what I was wondering. Whether or not the DOCSIS modems, the gateways, etc. could handle that. As far as I know there is no difference between the residential services and the business offerings. It's just that one can be used for business.

And I do recognize that this would be a niche service. Most folks just want high peak bandwidth availability and couldn't care less about latency (probably don't even know what it is) or minimum bandwidth availability, nor would they want to pay more for what they perceive as being less.

And thanks for the link too!

Edit: Okay, looked at the info at that url. "Traffic Priority" is exactly what I'm thinking about. This allows the prioritization of all traffic to/from a specific modem over that of those with lower priority.

Now I"m only thinking about prioritized traffic between my modem and the CMTS vs all of the other modems in my neighborhood. I'm not thinking about end to end QoS. If I'm paying more, because I work from home (for instance), I just want to have some way of guaranteeing that my productivity won't be cut down to almost zero because all of the kids in the area are at home downloading mp3's thanks to a snow day. This is really a SOHO offering over cable that I'm talking about much in the same way that (let's say) Covad offers ADSL for residential and SDSL for SOHO. So pricing may very well be similar. Currently $159/mth for 384/384 and $210/mth for 768/768. The advantage with cable being that you could come up with a prioritized service that is still asymmetric and more competitive pricewise (128kbps up is way too small though).
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