oliphant5
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Re: If channels are so expensive...
That's what they're looking to do. Separate out the gougers like ABC, Fox and ESPN. |
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| No not the stupid packaging stuff that they are doing where you pay $10 a month for basic or $80 a month for expanded with all the "gougers" but rather you pay $0.08 a month for CBS, $3 for ESPN, etc.
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Speaking of ESPN they keep showing less good stuff. They picked up the NBA and their NHL coverage has suffered. NoW they are wasting time in the morning showing that stupid "Cold Pizza" show. Spike TV, Cold Pizza and American Movie Classics that shows the same garbage that is on TNT and TBS. Where do they find these idiots.
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said by oliphant5  :
That's what they're looking to do. Separate out the gougers like ABC, Fox and ESPN.
Funny thing is that I recall the sports channels were "a la carte" for a while back in the 80's. It's just an ugly vicious cycle reinventing itself.
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1 edit | To me I could care less if they're dropped. I could live without watching the world championship of poker, log rolling or 20 year old world series games.
Playmakers and an occasional HDTV football feed simply isn't worth paying extra for.
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To me I could care less if they're dropped. I could live without watching the world championship of poker, log rolling or 20 year old world series games.
the world championship of poker is the best thing on espn! seriously!
but what is with the new espn soap opera? i saw the commericals for that a while back, and i just laughed my ass off.
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I hear where you are coming from but the problem with this stance is that it's not only ESPN but all the Sport Program providers that will end up going on a pay for tier basis and my biggest fear is that it won't end there.
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It started out good...like The Sopranos did for the underworld, Playmakers gave a look behind the scenes of the NFL...pressure on players, team doctors, league politics...then VERY quickly went downhill.
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I'm sure it won't. And it's not just sports...all of Disney's programming, not just ESPN is going up at these huge rates. If it were just 1 or two channels, the cable and DBS operators would probably just absorb the costs, but when you have 10 or 15 of 50-80 non-premium channels taking these massive increases...they have to try and controll it, or create a sports tier and slap, Speed, the ESPN's, Fox Sports (and their out of region digitals) on their own tier. Then people who want it, can pay and get it.
This is a two fold solution. 1, people who want it can still get it...which IMHO is a better solution than just dropping it. 2, it puts pressure on the programmers as they see their viewship tank because now those like me who while sports fans, aren't that impress with ESPN and Fox can pass and stick with the broadcast affiliates.
It's just like HD...I pay $5 for an HD tier and understand that it wouldn't really be "fair" for everyone to cover the costs of HD since the majority don't watch HD.
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I'm sure it won't. And it's not just sports ...
Ok so if it's not just sports then the "cancer" has already spread and my biggest fear has been realized. ... my biggest fear is that it won't end there. ...
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1 edit | Part of the Consumer report was true...it's mergers...but not by cable giants...but my the programmers. When we see the complaints about the ESPNs and ABC Family...that's Disney. All of Disney's channels are imposing these increases, which is why for the longest time, a lot of cable distributors had The Disney Channel a la carte. When no one bought, they dropped the price to get it on expanded basic tiers. We also see these merged programmers holding one network hostage to get another network carried. This is what happened with ABC Family. They threatened Dish Network to deny rebroadcast rights for the ABC Network of DN didn't carry ABC Family.
Now they're back at it again with their other new purchased networks...and finally cable and DBS providers are saying no to the huge increases.
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Cold Pizza what a stupid ass show. Lame, lame and more lame.
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1 edit | And maybe ESPN is facing operating cost increases as part of it...but consumers shouldn't be paying for ESPN's poor judgement in starting up crap like Cold Pizza or overbidding for sports broadcast rights.
I mean hell...I just looked at what ESPN has on right now...billiards! They want to charge cable operators a 20% increase and they're showing billiards!?!
They're dreaming.
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but what is with the new espn soap opera?
i tried watching the first episode. the first 10 minutes made me 50% dumber so i changed the channel 
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said by morbo :
said by oliphant5 :
To me I could care less if they're dropped. I could live without watching the world championship of poker, log rolling or 20 year old world series games.
the world championship of poker is the best thing on espn! seriously!
I agree. The only ESPN I have watched for more than 6 minutes is their Poker coverage. It's nice to see a mainstream network is paying attention to it. I used to have to watch it on Travel Channel. |
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I agree. The only ESPN I have watched for more than 6 minutes is their Poker coverage. It's nice to see a mainstream network is paying attention to it. I used to have to watch it on Travel Channel.
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ESPN does need to show more hockey. I got news for everyone, the NBA sucks.
ESPN2 is showing more hockey however.
Anyways, I would be willing to choose my own channels I recieve. That way I would not have to pay for crap like Lifetime, Oxygen, EWTN, ect.
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ESPN does need to show more hockey. I got news for everyone, the NBA sucks.
ESPN2 is showing more hockey however.
Anyways, I would be willing to choose my own channels I recieve. That way I would not have to pay for crap like Lifetime, Oxygen, EWTN, ect.
I used to watch a lot of ESPN and ESPN2 for the hockey. Instead, the last couple years I got the NHL Center Ice package which is totally awesome! I am a huge hockey nut, so I can watch any two teams go at it.
Now, I watch ESPN and ESPN2 on occassion....not as much as I used to that is for sure.
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Cyron
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I agree that sports should be on a seperate tier. However, I don't think the cost of the programming should be the determining factor. Sports appeals to a certain group of individuals and those not interested should have the ability to opt out.
But along the same lines, other channels should be on tiers as well. I don't think I should have to pay the 8 cents a month for Oxygen, when I never watch it. I don't care that it's only 8 cents. The same can be said of Telemundo. I don't speak Spanish and never watch that channel.
If every channel is added a la carte, the prices for individual channels would be greater as a whole, but individual cable bills may be less. The cable companies would also be able to see which channels are their bread and butter. |
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said by oliphant5 :
I mean hell...I just looked at what ESPN has on right now...billiards! They want to charge cable operators a 20% increase and they're showing billiards!?!
You posted that at 3:05 ET on a Sunday. There were probably 2 NFL games going on at that time on FOX and CBS.
What else are they going to show? They can't compete with the NFL games, so they put on "alternative" programming. Bowling, billiards, gymnastics. You'll pretty much always see that kind of stuff during NFL games.
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