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Speedy8
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reply to Nightfall
Re: Speakeasy DSL

Wow, did both of you not read what I said completely or what? I said there are people with bad DSL and good cable as well, I didn't say DSL is always better. But from all of the research and talking with people I have done the past 6 years, DSL definitely has the edge overall.

Also, if you check out doctor ping since it has been reimplemented here on the site, DSL generally has more scores at the top, even though cable has higher penetration in the US.


Nightfall
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No, DSL generally has lower latency. Most likely due to cable subscribers sharing nodes. When the upload speeds starts to get somewhat saturated on a node it can affect latency somewhat. Of course there are many exceptions. Some people have excellent latency on cable, and some people have really bad DSL. But overall cable has more bandwidth and DSL has better latency.

I guess I'm lucky though, because in my area my DSL has the most bandwidth available and the best latency.

To say DSL has better latency overall is a totally false statement. It all depends on the service you have and the area you have it in. This is why it is so important to do research the broadband in your area.

Sorry, but the whole "overloaded node" is incorrect. What is to say that your DSL node you are using is overloaded? I hear it all the time. The fact that DSL is better because you are connected right to to the pipe at the office while your cable modem has to connect to the neighborhood node. I believe it is a toss up personally. I have seen bad DSL with high latency as well as bad cable connections.
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borborpa
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reply to rradina
My ping to the gateway is 10ms, and is 15-30 to the East Coast. 70ms to the west coast (which is great, considering the distance). Neither DSL or Cable is always better...it depends on the service.

Never, ever judge anything related to the internet based on AOL...
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I disagree with your comment on latency. With my OOL 8000/900 cable, the ping time to the CMTS is about 8 msec.

When I had 1500/384 DSL, the ping time to the DSLAM was 18 msec. People who were not set up as DSL "fastpath" had ping times around 25 msec.
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Speedy8
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reply to rradina
No, DSL generally has lower latency. Most likely due to cable subscribers sharing nodes. When the upload speeds starts to get somewhat saturated on a node it can affect latency somewhat. Of course there are many exceptions. Some people have excellent latency on cable, and some people have really bad DSL. But overall cable has more bandwidth and DSL has better latency.

I guess I'm lucky though, because in my area my DSL has the most bandwidth available and the best latency.

rradina

join:2000-08-08
Chesterfield, MO

reply to Speedy8
Why do you say most cable companies have latency problems?

My only experience suggests exactly the opposite. Granted, my only experience with DSL is my father's AOL DSL but his response times to just about anywhere on the web are +100ms. In the same area, I have Charter cable Internet and I usually get 50ms to most areas of the Internet. He also experiences packet loss, I have no packet loss.

Is it common for DSL to have better latency than cable? I actually thought it was the other way around and that most folks that think cable has latency problems think that way before DOCSIS provided management to keep hogs from killing the network.
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