wentlanc
You Can't Fix Dumb..
join:2003-07-30
Maineville, OH
| FTTH will kill off most phone services
That is the biggest problem. Once people have FTTH, there really is no longer a need for a copper pots line. Sure they are great in case of power loss, but that is not too frequent.
I can sort of see the bells, and cable co's points. If municipalities are allowed to build networks, then they can offer voice, video, and data for less, and eliminate the need for phone and cable co's. So the phone and cable co's want to be able to create a private network without competition before they will build out a new network. But in turn, the lack of movement is spurring on exactly what they don't want, competition. Ultimately, I think that the network and service companies should be, and will be, separate entities.
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AthlGrond
Premium,MVM
join:2002-04-25
Aurora, CO
 ·Comcast
| said by wentlanc  :
Ultimately, I think that the network and service companies should be, and will be, separate entities.
I vote for that! It's the only thing that really makes sense in the long run. |
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Wills
join:2001-01-03
Port Charlotte, FL
| reply to wentlanc
Bull. The only reason that the telecomms are complaining about this is because they don't want to make the investment to run fiber.
If they did we'd have it already.
The muni's and the utilities have the goverment money to spend to do this. If the telecomms would get off the wallet, there wouldn't be a problem. If they started doing it en masse before the muni's they wouldn't complain. They sat on their laurels and told people "it's too expensive" while thinking "if we ignore them they'll go away".
Now that mistake is biting them in the backside. They deserve it.
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The Folsom
Kindly Shut Your Noise Hole.
Premium
join:2003-01-31
Yucaipa, CA
 ·Verizon FIOS
| reply to wentlanc
said by wentlanc :
That is the biggest problem. Once people have FTTH, there really is no longer a need for a copper pots line. Sure they are great in case of power loss, but that is not too frequent.
I can sort of see the bells, and cable co's points. If municipalities are allowed to build networks, then they can offer voice, video, and data for less, and eliminate the need for phone and cable co's. So the phone and cable co's want to be able to create a private network without competition before they will build out a new network. But in turn, the lack of movement is spurring on exactly what they don't want, competition. Ultimately, I think that the network and service companies should be, and will be, separate entities.
puritan
Puritan, I have come to respect your opinion.
I wish the bells, cables and corps would SHUT UP about lost revenues when faced with munis... That is capitalism, sure, but lobbies are evil because of that. We'll never have good results with munis as long as the lobbyists are hounding lawmakers-"Please, Sir, I want MORE!"
Pathetic. Corps are swimming in money, and they begrudge the munis for wanting to protect their constituents from corporate rape. (Sorry for the generalization.)
At the same time, though, I will never give up POTS copper if it is still offered in my neighborhood. Networks, to me, are still too "fragile" to be counted on for voice calls. QOS is still not stringent enough to ensure reliability. Even though they still end up running on the same pipes as voice, they are just not "robust" enough, and I just can't seem to get away from the "having a good backup" mentality. The bells have built a time-tested network that works more consistently, but they want it all. Therein lies the rub:
Corporate greed versus munis "protecting" the people.
My $.02
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achuchma
join:2001-04-11
Tampa, FL
| reply to Wills
In part I agree with you, but given how far the telecom sector is in the toilet with finances, it really isn't something that can happen right away.
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T Jackson
@attbi.co
| reply to The Folsom
The government envading private enterprise is just somthing that the government shouldn't be getting into. The only good things that this does for the muni's is to help them generate more government money and give polititains more power.... and causes excessive government entanglement in business. |
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The Folsom
Kindly Shut Your Noise Hole.
Premium
join:2003-01-31
Yucaipa, CA
·Verizon FIOS
| said by T Jackson:
The government envading private enterprise is just somthing that the government shouldn't be getting into. The only good things that this does for the muni's is to help them generate more government money and give polititains more power.... and causes excessive government entanglement in business.
I don't see the munis as being invasive if the people are given a choice between provider(s) a, b, c or muni alternative. But corps want to keep munis out of the mix altogether. At least if the corps are given an incentive to give competitive service and prices the people will win as a result. The people have a right to consider their alternatives, and if munis are excluded, this is not happening. If broadband can be offered as a utility, then the corps are forced to play fair; this is what they wish to avoid.
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