anon1000
@cable.rogers | is this piracy?
I searched and the last topic was too old to reply too!!!
In this instance only.....
I have about 300 LP albums that I can no longer play. Is it piracy if I only download the song I legitmately bought 15 yrs ago? |
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EveryName
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Montreal | Yes, it would be considered piracy. But it would be legal (as of now) if you only download and don't share.
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PegLeg
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According to the Act , you're allowed to reproduce one copy for your private use - »www.cb-cda.gc.ca/info/act-e.html#rid-33770 |
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Steve
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said by EveryName  :
Yes, it would be considered piracy.
Not everybody shares this view. When you own an album (of whatever type), you've purchased a license to that music. Obtaining that same music - as long as there's still just one "user" - looks like as clear a case of "fair use" as I have ever seen.
It's only theft if you're taking music for which you have neither permission nor a license.
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EveryName
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said by PegLeg :
According to the Act , you're allowed to reproduce one copy for your private use - »www.cb-cda.gc.ca/info/act-e.html#rid-33770
But he's not reproducing a copy. It's downloading a completely different copy.
Yes, I agree many people do not share the same view. I personally don't think it should be piracy, but to the Canadian Music Industry, it would probably be considered piracy.
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PegLeg
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But he's not reproducing a copy. It's downloading a completely different copy.
But the Act does not place any limitations on your source .
The only thing you are not legally suppose to do is lend / upload to someone else to copy it ... |
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EveryName
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Montreal | True. I guess it's just a matter of judgement. |
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I often wondered about this myself....
A few years ago I started converting some of my vinyl to CD...Some of the LPs were scratched up a bit...Software like CoolEdit or GoldWave allows you to remove some of the noise, but it was tedious... It was alot easier to borrow friends CDs and rip the songs or download from Kazaa, Napster or Limewire... |
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PegLeg
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said by EveryName :
True. I guess it's just a matter of judgement.
Like alot of other things ....:) |
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Robert
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I do it all the time. Between my Dad's old eight tracks and records, I am slowly getting them and burning them on CD for him. That way the songs now sound better, and he has them archived on his computer to create his own mixes.
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Would they CRIA want to toss you jail and fine you for it? Probably, they are jerks after all. Would the courts actually do it? Probably not, since they already own a copy. What's the difference between downloading a copy of something you own and making a copy and cleaning up except saving yourself some time. |
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Counterstric
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Technically it is probably piracy, but I wouldn't worry about it, do it anyways. I would love to see a court try and convict for downloading something you already own.
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Well since you already pay a levy per blank CD you buy regardless of whether it's for music or not, and you already own the LP, hell no.
Download away, after all you can download in Canada and it's now illegal. Just don't let all the kiddies download from you and you are fine 
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Snickerdo
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You already own and paid for the license for the music. At that point, so long as the music remains in your own possession, you can do whatever the hell you want with it. That also means re-downloading the song from the internet, since you already have the rights to own and listen to that piece of music. It's similar to software, but a whole lot less complicated.
Even if you didn't own the music, it's not illegal to download any form of music from the internet. We pay a levy on blank recordable media and, as a result, the courts have declared that it's open season for us to do as we wish. If it makes your conscious feel any better - you already paid for the right to own the music, how you get the music is now up to you.
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PegLeg
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1 edit | said by Snickerdo :
We pay a levy on blank recordable media and, as a result, the courts have declared that it's open season for us to do as we wish.
Could you kindly enlighten me as to which court passed that judgement ? |
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str7
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| said by PegLeg :
said by Snickerdo :
We pay a levy on blank recordable media and, as a result, the courts have declared that it's open season for us to do as we wish.
Could you kindly enlighten me as to which court passed that judgement ?
The Copyright Board of Canada. They also consider downloading music as something legal.
»rss.com.com/2100-1025_3-5121479.html |
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Dark Shoes
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Actually the courts haven't ruled on anything. The downloading decision was a ruling made by the Copyright Board of Canada which is a federal government regulator. The recording industry still believes downloading is illegal and will probably challenge the ruling in the courts. So I don't think this issue is settled yet.
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Snickerdo
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Niagara Falls, ON | reply to anon1000
My mistake. I stand corrected. |
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