 Budman1018
join:2003-04-14 Camp Hill, PA
·Verizon FIOS
| reply to doppler Re: Wireless is not a defense for clueless
For a number of years I have been installing computers and computer networks for people who still cannot figure out how to program their VCR. Recently, some of my 'customers' have been requesting wireless networks installed. I will only install them if they agree to sit down with me and hear my lesson about basic wireless network security. I will not install a network without, at a minimum WEP encryption, and MAC filtering. The customer realizes if they do not pay attention to my little lesson about how to access the router and enter MAC addresses and WEP keys they are not going to be able to add any more computers or get back on if the network goes down. I don't install a lot of wireless because most customers don't have the time to hear me out, or they are not savvy enough to comprehend what I'm saying. Some are so ignorant they tell me to F**** off they will find someone else to do it. The majority of computer users don't care. Their computers are full of virus and malware. What's one other thing like giving a hacker a free ride on your IP. |
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  TooLazyToLogin
@indiana.edu | reply to doppler Totally agree. If they had bothered to even read the manuals, they would know. And if they did read the manual and did nothing to secure their networks, shame on them. |
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 doppler
join:2003-03-31 Blue Point, NY
| reply to russotto Personal responsibility.
I am a member of the NRA. I will not leave a loaded gun laying around for anybody to use. I use a wireless connection. IT'S SECURE.
I can't get my boss to realize how bad it is to leave an open connection via wireless. Things that could happen because of an unsecured connection.
1. Lawsuit from RIAA/MPAA etc etc because someone was out front of the business protesting RIAA tactics. "Gee, your honour. I didn't know about those 10,000 illegal music files offered on my T1".
2. FBI/Local enforcement sting for child porn. "Gee, your honour. I didn't know about those 1,000,000 illegal child porn files offered on my T1".
3. Getting blacklisted from every spam block list. "Gee, I didn't know about those billions of spam messages being passed through my T1".
Even if there is no legal standpoint. There is a point where you must take responsibility. |
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  J D McDorce Premium join:2001-12-29 Westland, MI | reply to russotto 17 USC 512(a) only refers to Copyright Infringement and is certainly not a Get Out of Jail Free Card for those providing (intentionally or not) wireless access. |
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 russotto
join:2000-10-05 Collegeville, PA
| reply to doppler On what grounds? 17 USC 512(a) removes liability for those who are deliberately providing access. If the access is being provided accidentally or even against the wishes of the provider (e.g. by someone hacking WEP), there's no grounds in the first place. |
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 doppler
join:2003-03-31 Blue Point, NY | Secure it or lose everything |
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