Awdieee
join:2003-01-17
Fayetteville, AR | reply to Awdieee
Re: [DSL] Here's my 11 items, please advise.
I wish I knew someone that does that. I'm trying to see if someone on the forum that will help me install the splitter. Thanks.
Lee |
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McSummation
Mmmm, Zeebas Are Tastee.
Premium,MVM
join:2003-08-13
Round Rock, TX
 ·AT&T Southwest
| reply to Awdieee
It was easy. (But, then, I've been messing with wiring and stuff like that since I was 8 years old.  )
Do you have a friend that's a "handy man"? Actually, it doesn't take many skills. There aren't that many connections on the splitter I got. And, they are clearly labeled. The instructions were also pretty clear. |
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Awdieee
join:2003-01-17
Fayetteville, AR | reply to Awdieee
That looks rather complicated. Did you installed the splitter yourself? If I were to ask someone to install it for me, whom should I call? Thanks.
Lee |
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McSummation
Mmmm, Zeebas Are Tastee.
Premium,MVM
join:2003-08-13
Round Rock, TX
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to Awdieee
There's a FAQ about where to get splitters ( »AT&T Southeast Forum FAQ »Splitter, DSL/POTS ? Where can I get one? ). I don't think you'll find them at RatShack.
Here's a link to the one I got: »www.allentelproducts.com/Catalog···PID=2010
Here's the invoice information I got:
1 - Allen Tel AT626DSL - DSL Splitter Outdoor Device @ $39.99ea. = $39.99
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SubTotal = $39.99
Shipping & Handling (4 - 6 Days Delivery) = $5.00 (Residential Delivery)
State Sales Tax = $0.00
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Total for Order = $44.99 |
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Awdieee
join:2003-01-17
Fayetteville, AR | reply to McSummation
I'll see what I can find out tommorrow. Is the splitter readily available from Radio Shack or any electronic store or is this something I need to buy online? Thanks.
Lee |
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McSummation
Mmmm, Zeebas Are Tastee.
Premium,MVM
join:2003-08-13
Round Rock, TX
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to Awdieee
A "splitter" is a device that is better than a filter.
A filter is placed between POTS (Plain Old Telephone Service) devices and the line to keep the POTS devices from draining off the high frequency signals that DSL uses.
A splitter goes out next to the NID. The one I have (and they may all be this way) has active circuits in it (a transistor) that splits the signal into low frequency and high frequency portions and puts them out onto separate connectors that go to the POTS lines and the home-run (CAT5) to the modem. This circuitry also does a combining function to the signals going back toward the phone system.
The FAQ articles on this indicate that the splitter is the preferred device, especially if you already have a home-run.
Did this make sense? |
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Awdieee
join:2003-01-17
Fayetteville, AR | reply to Awdieee
Now I'm confused. I'm using a Cat5 wire connecting to the NIC to the modem. When you said "Splitter", is that the filter?
Lee |
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McSummation
Mmmm, Zeebas Are Tastee.
Premium,MVM
join:2003-08-13
Round Rock, TX
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to Awdieee
The flat stuff can pick up noise (hum) from other electrical devices. This can cause errors. Did ADSL Guy have you unhook everything but the modem? If not, you might try that and do another Tweak and Line Quality test to see what happens.
To clear up problems I had, I finally replaced the wire that ran to the modem with cat3 and put a splitter at the NID. My service became very stable after I did that. I wish now that I had put in cat5. |
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Awdieee
join:2003-01-17
Fayetteville, AR | reply to Awdieee
I'm using the plain old flat type to connect to the modem and I am pretty much closest to the box as we speak.
Lee |
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McSummation
Mmmm, Zeebas Are Tastee.
Premium,MVM
join:2003-08-13
Round Rock, TX | reply to Awdieee
Did you let the hawgs gnaw on it?
He probably can't tell if it's the wiring in your house or theirs, though, right?
How about the 2 questions I posed in my last post? |
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Awdieee
join:2003-01-17
Fayetteville, AR
| reply to Awdieee
7h58m : 2003-12-31 13:03:19 : From ADSL Guy block ... delete-this ... keep-this
ADSL Down
Relative Capacity Occupation (0 - 100%) 100
Noise Margin (0 - 31 dB) 3
Transmitted Signal Power (0 - 20 dB) 14
Signal Attenuation (0 - 60dB) 53
Max Attainable Bit Rate on Fast Channel (Kbps) 576
Max Attainable Bit Rate on Interleaved Channel (Kbps) 576
Fast Channel Bit Rate (Kbps) 768
Interleaved Channel Bit Rate (Kbps) 0
Fast Cell Count (Kbps) 70796668
Interleaved Cell Count (Kbps) 0
ADSL Up
Relative Capacity Occupation (0 - 100%) 60
Noise Margin (0 - 31 dB) 16
Transmitted Signal Power (0 - 20 dB) 12
Signal Attenuation (0 - 60dB) 43
Max Attainable Bit Rate on Fast Channel (Kbps) 704
Max Attainable Bit Rate on Interleaved Channel (Kbps) 704
Fast Channel Bit Rate (Kbps) 384
Interleaved Channel Bit Rate (Kbps) 0
Fast Cell Count (Kbps) 13132694
Interleaved Cell Count (Kbps) 0
According to ADSL Guy, there's something wrong with my wiring. I had already double check my filter and wiring and everything seems to be in check.
Lee |
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McSummation
Mmmm, Zeebas Are Tastee.
Premium,MVM
join:2003-08-13
Round Rock, TX
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to Awdieee
OK, let me describe what I'm looking at.
1) Look at the EC (East Coast) plot and compare it with the WC (West Coast) plot. The WC plot is (mostly) flat on top. That's the way it ought to be. The EC plot, on the other hand, has a "saw tooth" pattern. Not good.
Now, where's the problem?
2) Look down the columns of numbers. I'm looking at best, avg, and worst. On each row, look at the difference between best and worst. If there is a small difference (like a millisecond), that's good. Look at the "(YOUR ADDRESS)" line of the EC data - the difference is 16 ms. Not good. Same line in the WC data has a difference of 62 ms. Those lines are the only ones that have differences above 1 ms.
Therefore, the problem is between rback2-fa2-0.fyvlar.swbell.net (your gateway into the SBC network) and your computer.
Now, the problem is: what's causing the problem? We start with:
»Tweaking FAQ »What does power-cycle my modem mean and how do I do it?
»/faq/5322
I posted those earlier, but I don't know if you did them.
Additional questions:
1) What type of wiring goes to the modem? Is it "plain old flat phone extension" wire? Or is it "twisted pair" cable - like cat3/5/5e/6 cable?
2) Can you move the modem close to the NID (the gray box on the back/side of the house) and see if the errors go away?
Let's stop there and let you catch your breath and get a few winks of shut-eye. |
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Awdieee
join:2003-01-17
Fayetteville, AR | reply to Awdieee
Line quality test :
»/quality/nil/1257158
Not sure if I understand what it says though. |
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McSummation
Mmmm, Zeebas Are Tastee.
Premium,MVM
join:2003-08-13
Round Rock, TX
·AT&T Southwest
| reply to Awdieee
To answer your first question, I don't know if "DSL Speed" affects it or not. We only use DrTCP here on this site. Some do appear to cause problems, but I don't know about this one. I'm still one of the "new kids on the block", so if one of the "old timers" comes along, maybe they'll have some information about it.
However, if you can disable it, it would help me analyze what's going on relative to your inconsistent speeds. (As an old IBM performance analyst, I believe in eliminating as many variables as possible when looking for something like this.)
I know you've run Line Quality tests before, but, run another one, making sure you are pingable. |
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Awdieee
join:2003-01-17
Fayetteville, AR
| reply to Awdieee
Speed test result :
»/speedtests/39···72846511
Hmmm, I'm getting anywhere from 98-530kb for downloads, it seems rather erratic and inconsistent. What's wrong with my connection?
Lee |
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Awdieee
join:2003-01-17
Fayetteville, AR | reply to Awdieee
Tweak test results :
»216.254.95.40/tweak/block:37a903···nXPpppoe |
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Awdieee
join:2003-01-17
Fayetteville, AR | reply to Awdieee
I'm using DSL Speed for optimizing. Does that affect anything? |
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McSummation
Mmmm, Zeebas Are Tastee.
Premium,MVM
join:2003-08-13
Round Rock, TX | reply to Lanik
Have you run another "broadband optimizer"? (We're investigating issues related to DrTCP not being able to modify some things after other programs have run.) |
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Lanik
Lab-nik
Premium,ExMod 2002-03
join:2001-06-25
Bay Area | reply to Awdieee
Are you logging in as an administrator and/or do you have administrative privileges on your PC?
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A slave to corporate America. |
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Awdieee
join:2003-01-17
Fayetteville, AR | reply to Awdieee
Yep, no matter what I do, the value are still the same. |
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