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Re: Looks Good

said by The Folsom See Profile:
5GHz is interesting, though, and I hope that this spectrum will be used instead of HF... The interference potential is much lower and much more easily mitigated.

Ham radio need not sacrificed if 5GHz BPL is utilized versus HF BPL.

All the other radio services in the HF can be saved, too!

So wait, you are advocating knocking out everything in the 5Ghz band instead? Tell me, how is that a solution rather than just pushing this problem out of the HAM world and into another person's world ? This "solution" is going to interefere with everything from telephones to data networks and is probably why they aren't putting it in the 2.4Ghz range.
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Re: Looks Good

I agree. The article didn't specify if this 5Ghz spectrum won't interfere with any 5.x Ghz devices, like Wifi(a) or new wireless phones.
BPL must find a way to limit their interference to minimum.
I wonder if BPL is causing a lot of interference in urban areas when most of the powerlines are underground.
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The interference at 5GHz is of a lower power, is localized by the nature of RF energy at this frequency and is less likely to impact devices in the rest of the world. The interferences that would occur are much more easily mitigated. There are also ham allocations in this spectrum, so I am not being unfair to others. Wi-Fi at 5GHz is used mostly indoors, and less likely to be severely impacted. Besides, ISM is an unlicensed service, so there are no licensed services being taken out.

I do not advocate taking out ANYTHING at 5GHz or at any other frequency.

But this seems a better choice given the number of licensed services that already reside within HF. The number of unlicensed users in the 5GHz range is quite small in comparison.
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Unlike HF frequencies, at 5GHz, radio waves do not bend around corners or propagate long distances beyond line of sight. This means that any low power RF at that frequency does not go very far, and hence would not wipe out anything unless it was very close to it.
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Re: Looks Good

Both of you have good arguments, however, the article states that 5 Ghz is going to be used with 802.11x devices not BPL so what you are doing is adding to the number of actively radiating devices and increasing the the potential for interference with other users in the band.

Additionally since the original BPL carrier frequencies will still be used to deliver data to the APs you have in effect increased the amount of spectrum required to deliver service to a given population.

If the cell industry operated this way we wouldn't have any data service what so ever from them as they wouldn't have enought spectrum to do it.
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Re: Looks Good

The way I understand it, the Corridor system uses the 5GHz UN-II band down the power line and 802.11 into the home. It does not use any HF spectrum. Yes, there is other 802.11 equipment, but the 802.11 band is channelized into 6 channels. Adjacent 802.11 installations should be using different channels anyway; thus no interference at that level.

Supposedly, Corridor tested their 5Ghz system for susceptibility from a amateur transmitter and found no interference (no surprise there!)

Mainline, Ambient, Current, and all the other BPL companies use 2 to 80 MHZ on the power line. That's the part that is bad.
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