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WildGod
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A simple Newsgroup Tutorial for all


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WHAT YOU WILL NEED

1) Access to Newsgroups - Most Internet Service Providers (ISPs) allow their users access to Newsgroups. If you dont have access to Newsgroups through your ISP, you can find a list at Slyck.com

2) A Newsreader - There are many Newsreaders available. Xnews seems to be both the most common and easiest to setup. This tutorial will use Xnews. Here is a listing of Newsreaders available:

»www.timdoc.com/guide/Download_Gu···sreaders

»download.com.com/3150-2164-0-1-1···acy=cnet

3) Winrar - Files on Newsgroups (depending on size) are split into parts and come in .rar and/or .zip formats. This basically means that the files are compressed and are able to be split up and later can be combined back to the original state using Winrar. Get Winrar here

4) .SFV verifier and .PARchive recovery program - Large files posted to Newsgroups are split into parts of around 15MB-50MB. Sometimes some parts of a file become corrupt during posting, rendering them useless. This is a
problem unless of course the poster also posts .PAR files. PAR files can replace a missing and/or corrupt file. There is one catch, you must have the same number of .PAR files as you do missing and/or corrupt files. A
newer recovery file system is PAR2. The differences between PAR and PAR2 is discussed here. In order to recover these missing and/or corrupt files you will also need a .PAR recovery program. Here are three:

FSRaid for regular PAR files
SmartPAR for regular PAR files
QuickPAR for PAR2 files

When browsing through Newsgroups you might also see a file ending in .SFV. This small file stores information about the full group of files. When opened with QuickSFV it will tell you how many files are in the total set and will tell you if any are missing or corrupt. To see how many files are in the full set before you even start downloading anything just double click on the .SFV file in
Xnews.

5) You will also need a CD/DVD burning program if you plan on burning the items you download. Nero is my burning program of choice. If you get a .bin and .cue combination of files after you unrar something, this will show you what to do with them.

Well now you have just about everything you need to venture into the wonderful world of Newsgroups, lets get it setup.

SETUP
STEP 1

Download an install your Newsreader of choice. I will be using Xnews for this tutorial. Start up Xnews, choose SERVER then NEW as shown in FIGURE #1

Enter the Server name in the space provided as shown in FIGURE #2

Enter a nickname in the space provided as shown in FIGURE #3

If you need to enter a Username and Password choose SPECIAL, then choose SETUP XNEWS as shown in FIGURE #4

Enter you Sever Address, Username and Password (if required) in the space provided then click OK as shown in FIGURE #5

NOW YOUR READY TO START USING NEWSGROUPS

STEP 2

You will should see a list of Newsgroups available to you.
Most Newsgroups only contain text files, some contain files other users have posted.
The Newsgroups which usually contain files start with alt.binaries.
An example can be seen in FIGURE #6

Once you find a Group you like you can Subscribe to that group (add to your Favorites) so that you can find it a lot easier the next time. To Subscribe to a Group, highlight it by clicking on it once then choose the Subscribe button shown in FIGURE #7

Once you Subscribe to the Group it will have a different symbol in front of it as shown in FIGURE #8

To only see the Groups you have subscribed to just click the All Button on the lower left as shown in FIGURE #9 (this one shows all) and FIGURE #10 (this one only shows subscribed groups)

Now double click on the Group to see what is in there. You may get a popup window like the one shown in FIGURE #11

If a popup window similar to the one in FIGURE #11 appears you will have to choose the number of headers to download. Slide the top slider to the left to get to the beginning of the headers and the bottom slider to the right
to get to the end. If your ISP gives you a download limit check to see if this limit includes headers, if so you may not want to download headers you have already seen. You can choose the RETRIEVE BUT EXCLUDE READ ARTICLES from the middle of the popup window. If you have no limit you dont need to worry about this, just set it as shown above.

After a few mintues of downloading the Headers (basically the title of the particular post), you will see a number of lines of postings. It should look something like FIGURE #12

In FIGURE #12 I have shown the most common Icons you will find, here is what they mean:
A -This Posting contains a number of text files, click on it and it will reveal more text files which you can double click on and read.

B - This file is an .sfv file, I discussed this above at #4 in the what you will need section.

C - This is a text file, notice the extension of
the file in this example,.nfo. Double click on it to read it's contents or you can also download it.

D - This is a corrupted part. Whatever this file contained is no longer useable.

E - This file is ok to be downloaded, it is not corrupted.

Other things to look at:
Postings usually contain information about what it is, for example the title of the file may be posted, the number of the file compared to how many are in the complete set (ex. 001 of 103 = 1st file of a total of 103) and the file extension.

Once you find a file or group of files you want to download, highlight the file or group of files you want and hit the Spacebar on your keyboard or Right Click on the file/group of files and choose (De)Qeue. You will now
see numbers next to the file, this is the Qeue order, files are downloaded in that order. If you decide you no longer want to download a particular file, just highlight it and use the same procdure as you did when you chose
to download it. After you have chosen which files you would like to download, click the Decode Button (FIGURE #13) or hit the F4 button on your keyboard.

If you wish to Cancel the download, just click on the Cancel Button shown in FIGURE #14

That's all there is to it. It may seem overwhelming but its quite easy after you get used to it.

HELPFUL TIPS

--To find a particular file in a Group, choose Group located at the top and then choose Find. Type in what your looking for (type only the first few letters since most Posts dont usually contain the whole title).
--Use sites such as NFONews.com and Newzbin.com to see whats available on on Newsgroups.
--RUN A VIRUS SCAN ON ANYTHING YOU DOWNLOAD. This goes for everything you download, not just on Newsgroups.

Please, please, please feel free to add to this.

And a big thanks to dumwaldo See Profile for introducing me to Newsgroups.
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Bob Sanchez
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Very informative WildGod See Profile and very well layed out!! If I may, let me add a link that will answer any possible question for the NewsBin users like myself or those interested in using NewsBin.

»www.newsbin.com/nb4/help/
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WildGod
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reply to WildGod
Feel free to add as much info as possible.
Heres some more great references:

TimDoc’s Downloading Guide


Slyck's Guide To The Newsgroups

»[NEWSGROUPS] NewsPro How-to and more

»nothing about newsgroups at the top of the forum

For free access to Newsgroups (limit of 50mb per day) check out Tera News.
Nice way to test out Newsgroups or just to use it to get fillers. Thanks to AR See Profile for this link.

A great site to compare premium Newsgroup service can be found here.

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pi
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 reply to WildGod
Kickass tutorial, thanks
I don't have anything to add though since I rarely use newsgroups


removed
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reply to WildGod
Would be nice if you could suggest this here -- »File Sharing FAQ. I'd add it for you, but you should get credit for the tutorial.
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Shanto20
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reply to WildGod
Great job WG


Fox11
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reply to WildGod
Nice tutorial !

Can you please tell me how to set-up mIRC so i can use this ...

»www.packetnews.com/index.php?got···ownloads

Thank you.


Shanto20
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Try reading the FAQ and if you need more help, start your own thread.
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said by Fox11 See Profile:

Can you please tell me how to set-up mIRC so i can use this ...

»www.packetnews.com/index.php?got···ownloads
Sure!
Here ya go! »IRC FAQ
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Tony
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reply to WildGod
Great post WildGod See Profile.

Regarding NFO files I like to use a NFO viewer rather than the notepad. Try it for yourself and you will see why. NfoDiz is one and DAMN NFO Viewer is another. They really bring the ASCII art to life.

I would also suggest using Alcohol 120% for its ability to mount images (virtual drive) and it is a superior burning program when it comes to burning SVCD's and VCD's.
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Fox11
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said by Fox11 See Profile:

Can you please tell me how to set-up mIRC so i can use this ...

»www.packetnews.com/index.php?got···ownloads
Sure!
Here ya go! »IRC FAQ

Thanks, but thats doesn't show me how to set-up mIRC so i can download from packetnews.com. Any other idea's? Thanks.


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Click the channel name and mIRC will go directly to that server/channel. Read the FAQ on how to do downloads and whatnot. It's easy.. really.
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Fox11
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Thanks oWn3d. I'll try it right now.


Bob Sanchez
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reply to WildGod
YourAnswersNfo.zip 23,763 bytes
(YourAnswersNfo.doc)
Forgot where I got this document from but is comes in handy as it answers a lot of questions about bin, cue, rar,etc.
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dumwaldo
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said by WildGod See Profile:
And a big thanks to dumwaldo See Profile for introducing me to Newsgroups.

when i see help like this provided for other i feel like i should be the one thanking you. it was my pleasure to introduce you to newsgroups, your welcome.

peace out,
dumwaldo


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Nice tutorial there. I've been using Newsbin Pro for my
binary d/l's for quite a while now, and Xnews for text.
Well, I decided to try the latter for the first time on
a multipart Winrar binary. A few extra pointers for Xnews
users, one of which is from Slyck.com. First of all,
in the Xnews Setup window, on the Display tab, uncheck
"Expand all threads by default" in Sorting and Threading,
and also uncheck "Split Screen display by default"
in Article Window Layout. This will make life a lot easier
for Xnews users. The other tip concerns setting the number
of headers to retrieve for the first time from a given
group. You can set Xnews to only download headers posted
within the last X days. Ideally, X should be the number of
days retention your news server has for that particular
group. For example, when downloading headers from a
multipart binary group for the first time using Giganews,
I set this to 30 days (the current retention for multipart
binaries).
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quicksliver

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reply to WildGod
Super FAQ. If only Xnews would add nzb... But, it is free, so nobody should think I'm complaining.


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reply to WildGod
Once again Wild, you serve up another fine tutorial! Good job


Flipyo
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Instead of installing new programs, you can always just use Notepad with the "terminal" font. Since I don't use notepad for anything else (I prefer Ultraedit, since I do a lot of programming and such), I just leave it at that font.


WildGod
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said by Flipyo See Profile:
Instead of installing new programs, you can always just use Notepad with the "terminal" font. Since I don't use notepad for anything else (I prefer Ultraedit, since I do a lot of programming and such), I just leave it at that font.

thats what i do
as long as i get the info i need im happy
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