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Re: Celebrate the freedom of choice
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If people en mass demanded it, companies would deploy it.
And that is part of the "capitalism" equation - of course, industry has been known to hype a product to increase demand.
Look at the countries that are ahead of the U.S. - each one has had huge support from the government, overcoming hurdles such as funding, regulation and compatibility of equipment. Most have built on existing technology (DSL, Cable) that was pretty much pounded out and proven here in the U.S.
I offer that up as "reasons" for our 11th place, as opposed to being an excuse for it. But there is little doubt in my mind that the combination here in the U.S. of regulations, private ownership and funding, and continued R&D into alternative broadband delivery technologies has all combined to slow the spread of available technology.
We need to also keep in mind where the focus of the news article was at: "broadband in relation to business". It was speaking of broadband as a necessary tool for business growth, not pointed at the individual residential accounts at all as a "necessary utility". Looked at from that viewpoint I definitely agree it is a "utility". I look at prospective government contract work on a daily basis and I do it on broadband. I can review potential work offerings about as fast as I can read (at a pretty good clip) - goodness only knows how long it would take me each day to go through those things on dial-up! I'm talking taking a look at 100+ page Word files, not some quick blurb sent to me via email, although it is a broadband delivered email that alerts me to new offerings. In this arena, my competitor on dial-up is definitely on crutches in the race for finding new business.
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2 edits | A company's decision to remain on dial up is more often than not a "choice" as a source of broadband is present in the vast majority of markets.
Even fractional T-1 isn't cost prohibitive to business, even small business who have such a need for a quicker connection. Especially in SoCal...as far as COB go, broadband, even fractional T-1 priced broadband is near the bottom of the list.
It's consumer (residential and business) choice that has us 11th. It seems to me Americans simply don't have the need for speed. For communictations and entertainment, we (both residential and business) have so many choices that HSI loses priority, even at $26.95 price points.
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| It's consumer (residential and business) choice that has us 11th. It seems to me Americans simply don't have the need for speed.
Oh, we have the need for speed. But when some actually use it, they get hit with invisible caps. |
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| With who Comcast...Cox...who else. Not SBC, not Verizon, not a vast majority of providers. Sure, while their TOS may leave the door open, few providers are actually enforcing download limits.
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Eleven reasons for eleventh place.
1 FCC
2 Verizon
3 SBC
4 Bell South
5 Qwest
6 Time Warner
7 Cox
8 Charter
9 Comcast
10 Cablevision
11 Adelphia |
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Can be all summed up in one word...greed. |
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| Almost all humans (and all animals) are greedy, it's not a bad thing. Greed is what got us out of caves and into homes. Greed is what helps you and I have some of the highest standards of living in the world. Greed is why our ancestors are here in North America. Greed is deeply rooted in the creation of the Internet. Did you think it was designed and built out of altruism?
Which one of us does not want more than we have? If you were making $75,000.00 a year and the boss offered you a $25,000.00 raise would you say, "No thanks, $75,000.00 a year is plenty, I'll pass". |
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Since when is wanting to be successful or better themselves greedy? I guess we'll call you greedy the next time you ask your boss for a raise. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head forcing them to buy broadband.
Who is to say that those who want more speed for the same or less money aren't greedy.
So-called greed goes both ways then.
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Since when is wanting to be successful or better themselves greedy? I guess we'll call you greedy the next time you ask your boss for a raise. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head forcing them to buy broadband.
Normal needs and wants only become greed when they reach the magnitde where they start getting in the way of (in this case) progress. |
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sherpaboy
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| Greed? Like when consumers demand Unlimited 3MB over fiber to their home but only want to pay $25.00 a month for it.
Most BB users would be just fine with 384kbps (over Cable or DSL), but they always say they are getting ripped off if they have to pay $60.00.
I've never understood why people think that $15.00 to $20.00 for dial up service is ok, but 10 faster for digital service for only 3 times the price is a rip off. |
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said by rog :
said by GNXPower :
Since when is wanting to be successful or better themselves greedy? I guess we'll call you greedy the next time you ask your boss for a raise. No one is holding a gun to anyone's head forcing them to buy broadband.
Normal needs and wants only become greed when they reach the magnitde where they start getting in the way of (in this case) progress.
And how did you get the position of defining normal needs? You must have a very impressive resume.
What those crying greed fail to understand is that a business isn't a charity. They don't owe anyone anything, except to their investors who are taking the risks.
No one is holding a gun to anyone's head in buying these products and/or services and to those bitching about how PRIVATE business are "progressing" fast enough to satisfy consumer GREED...I say to them...go start their own business and "progress" for themselves for a change and knock off with the constant outstretched hands always looking for others to do for them.
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said by sherpaboy :
I've never understood why people think that $15.00 to $20.00 for dial up service is ok, but 10 faster for digital service for only 3 times the price is a rip off.
The answer to that is simple...consumers are GREEDY!
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