Karl Bode
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| reply to therage57
Re: TiVo? Get educated!
Well seriously, the thing has an ethernet jack, does it not? You'd think you could just network it and be done with it.
So essentially if I were moving to a new home, I'd have to order a land-line. Order DirecTV. Order Sunday Ticket via land-line. Then disconnect the land-line. Then network my Tivo and I'd be all set without any mods? |
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digiblur
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| said by Karl Bode  :
Well seriously, the thing has an ethernet jack, does it not? You'd think you could just network it and be done with it.
So essentially if I were moving to a new home, I'd have to order a land-line. Order DirecTV. Order Sunday Ticket via land-line. Then disconnect the land-line. Then network my Tivo and I'd be all set without any mods?
No... just call DirecTV and say "I want to order Sunday Ticket". Guess what?? They will take your money and put it on your account. A PHONE LINE IS NOT REQUIRED FOR DIRECTV. What do you think all the mobile DirecTV users do(RV'ers, etc)? They call on a cell or something and say "Hey Mrs.DirecTV lady, I want to order that PPV on channel 115." |
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ParanoiaInc
join:2002-08-28
Tucker, GA
| The phone line is for several things, but not long-term programming. PPV (Pay-Per View), one-off special paid-for events (wrestline & boxing, etc.), and for the TiVo Channel Guide (but this may have changed).
BTW, as someone already pointed out, VoIP will work for this necessary out-bound POTS communication. |
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Karl Bode
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join:2000-03-02 | reply to digiblur
See this is what I'm talking about. One person says yes, another says no. |
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Supafly
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1 edit | Hey Karl, the truth is the land-line isn't used to download guide updates on DirecTV TiVo units, it's downloaded through the sat, which is how us hackers can hack without worrying about TiVo checking our hardware. The phone line is only used for the following:
Software updates (which are a infrequent as 1-2 times a year.)
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Premium purchases, including all PPV movies, adult movies, and one-time sport shows.
Things like NFL Sunday ticket and NBA league pass are purchased through customer service phone number and are added like any other programming package. The phone line does not constantly need to be connected.
On a standalone TiVo, everything is piped through the phone line (Guide updates and subscription verification). But on standalone TiVo's (Both series 1 and 2) you can tell TiVo to download everything through the ethernet device (either internal on series 1, and external usb on series 2).
On Series 1 Standalones, you have to buy a internal nic and set your dialing prefix to ",#401" this tells the TiVo to download everything through the ethernet card.
On Series 2 Standalones, it's automatic once you setup the ethernet device.
On DirecTV TiVo's (Both Series 1 and 2) however, if you don't dial out the modem for more that 30 days, you'll get a nag screen once a day reminding you to do so. This is not a problem though if you are a enthusiast, as there is a script that fixes that.
Standalone TiVo differences:
Series 1: Internal nic must be purchased, and no official support, once it's plugged in however the drivers are already built in to the TiVo software (kinda weird).
Series 2: External USB nic needed, officially supported by TiVo for the home media option only.
DirecTV TiVo differences:
Series 1: Same as series 1 Standalone TiVo.
Series 2: USB ports for ethernet connections, and still no official support for them, you can only use them if you hack.
I don't have VoIP, but I'd thought you might like to know how the TiVo operates. 
EDIT: Added DirecTV TiVo's series 1 and 2 differences. |
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hottboiinnnc
join:2003-08-27
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| reply to digiblur
My grandparents lost their DirecTV one day for a week due to they didnt have it plugged into the POTS line. My grandma called in and bitched at the lady from DT and she said you have to keep it plugged in the card can't be checked to see if its legal or not. so they knock the card out. |
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GNXPower
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You can slow the baud rate of DirecTiVo's using prefixes ,#034 or ,#019 .
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| said by GNXPower :
You can slow the baud rate of DirecTiVo's using prefixes ,#034 or ,#019 .
Doesn't work on some series 2 direcTiVo's, like the Hughes HDVR2. |
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said by Supafly :
Hey Karl, the truth is the land-line isn't used to download guide updates on DirecTV TiVo units, it's downloaded through the sat, which is how us hackers can hack without worrying about TiVo checking our hardware. The phone line is only used for the following:
Software updates (which are a infrequent as 1-2 times a year.)
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Premium purchases, including all PPV movies, adult movies, and one-time sport shows.[/b]
The phone line was supposedly also used for DirecTV to check via ANI that all your receivers are in the same household. Whether they check or not is one of the mysteries of the universe.
My Sony SAT-T60 series 1 is hooked up to the phone line (to run elseed and YAC for onscreen caller ID), and on my vonage dashboard I see that it is dialing repeatedly to DirecTV. It dials at least ten times per day. And I've never ordered any PPV using the remote.
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On DirecTV TiVo's (Both Series 1 and 2) however, if you don't dial out the modem for more that 30 days, you'll get a nag screen once a day reminding you to do so. This is not a problem though if you are a enthusiast, as there is a script that fixes that.
Turbonet cards do work on S1 DTiVo as well as standalones. You can also hack S2's DTiVo's software to run ethernet over the USB ports using a USB to ethernet dongle.
Of course most people who would go that far would just set noupdate to false to control the release of software updates on their boxen. |
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Supafly
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