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nasadude
join:2001-10-05
Rockville, MD
 ·Comcast
| too little, too late wow, that might be great IF I COULD GET DSL!
Aside from that rant,let's suppose I have another wireless service, cable TV and cable HSI and only landline service with Verizon.
They expect me to:
* change wireless providers - I get to keep my phone number but not my phone (most likely) - strike one!
* drop cable for Sat TV - is installation of the dishes free? do I have line of sight to the satellite? how long will it take? what a pain for me to change - strike 2!
* drop cable HSI and get DSL - how long will that take? how far am I from the CO (what speeds can I get)? I have to change the modem I bought! strike 3!
What on earth makes VERIZON think people will switch if they only have one, maybe two verizon services? I doubt if the savings is that much.
I can see people going for this if they don't have some of these services at all, but if people already have these services from somebody else, I can't see it happening.
Why in the hell doesn't verizon try to expand the reach of DSL by using some newer technology. | |
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join:2002-10-07
Buffalo, NY
 ·Verizon FIOS
| Re: too little, too late said by nasadude  :
What on earth makes VERIZON think people will switch if they only have one, maybe two verizon services? I doubt if the savings is that much.
I am thinking about it, I am just so sick of the prices hikes in cable and half the time the sound and picture is crap (that's with digital.) I have been thinking of going to Direct TV but in order to have HSI I have to carry basic cable, this might be enough to push me over.
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| mrs213
join:2002-05-25
Pittsburgh, PA
| It's an option. See, this is what we call a COMPETITIVE MARKET. It keeps prices down and quality up, when it's done right.
If it doesn't work for you, DON'T USE IT. Since I have DSL, VW service, and want DirecTV, this kicks ass for me. So don't piss on my campfire just because it doesn't turn your particular crank. Just for fun, I'll pick your particular rant apart piece by piece:
1. Phones are so cheap and subsidized lately that it's beginning not to matter. With a 1-year contract, you can hit sub-$100 prices on many good phones, and it's only getting better. Stop whining.
2. Sat might not work for you, true. People in single-family homes usually have better luck than apartment dwellers, so this might be more targeted for them. And hey, if you've got a SW exposure, you're gold. YMMV.
3. It doesn't take long (a week?). If you're not out in the boonies, you have a decent chance of getting it, as Verizon increases their RT-based DSL coverage (read the press releases). And why in the hell did you buy a modem, with technology curves in broadband being what they are right now?
4. Expand DSL reach? They are (see above). They're also the most aggressive on FTTP, which is expensive, and may take a while to fully deploy.
5. One-bill setups are powerful, as people like consolidation and the ability to yell at one entity. If they can sweeten the deal with a cost savings for bundling (let's hope they're not stupid), even better.
Think outside of your tiny-ass kingdom for a split second, when arguing this stuff, and consider the bigger picture. Something presents options to the market and supplies competition gives us (consumers) a victory. You don't like it, don't use it! | |
| | cwpf
join:2002-01-07
Leesburg, VA
|  Re: too little, too late
I live in what is described as the technology corridor in the D.C. area and have been waiting for DSL for over 5 years. Many major high tech corporations employ many of my friends and neighbors. Only within the last year has 2-way high speed cable been an option. So where are the options? Where are the victories? Verizon has publicly stated that they prefer to stay in litigation before they would consider opening their markets. It's a fools play. While they drag their feet they lose more potential customer to the cable companies. Just wait until these same cable companies start to offer VoIP. Which in today's terms is any day.
I would rather companies such as Verizon focus on providing a better product to all they serve instead of wasting time with sales gimicks. Consider the motivation for Verizon to provide SAT. It's nothing more than an attempt to get back at the cable companies who are taking their business away.
As for the a single bill? Who cares. If you make electronic payments you don't even notice.
Lastly to the "tiny-ass" kingdom - it's the LECs that are trying to stifle competition. Just read the reports on the lobbing efforts of these same companies.
Oh and BTW, I won't pay the cable companies, I have DirecTV, and I still use Dial-up. It's the principle. Where's my DSL service? Oh it's stuck in some non-provisioned DSLAM in a Verizon warehouse. | |
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