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mrs213

join:2002-05-25
Pittsburgh, PA

reply to nasadude
Re: too little, too late

It's an option. See, this is what we call a COMPETITIVE MARKET. It keeps prices down and quality up, when it's done right.

If it doesn't work for you, DON'T USE IT. Since I have DSL, VW service, and want DirecTV, this kicks ass for me. So don't piss on my campfire just because it doesn't turn your particular crank. Just for fun, I'll pick your particular rant apart piece by piece:

1. Phones are so cheap and subsidized lately that it's beginning not to matter. With a 1-year contract, you can hit sub-$100 prices on many good phones, and it's only getting better. Stop whining.

2. Sat might not work for you, true. People in single-family homes usually have better luck than apartment dwellers, so this might be more targeted for them. And hey, if you've got a SW exposure, you're gold. YMMV.

3. It doesn't take long (a week?). If you're not out in the boonies, you have a decent chance of getting it, as Verizon increases their RT-based DSL coverage (read the press releases). And why in the hell did you buy a modem, with technology curves in broadband being what they are right now?

4. Expand DSL reach? They are (see above). They're also the most aggressive on FTTP, which is expensive, and may take a while to fully deploy.

5. One-bill setups are powerful, as people like consolidation and the ability to yell at one entity. If they can sweeten the deal with a cost savings for bundling (let's hope they're not stupid), even better.

Think outside of your tiny-ass kingdom for a split second, when arguing this stuff, and consider the bigger picture. Something presents options to the market and supplies competition gives us (consumers) a victory. You don't like it, don't use it!

cwpf

join:2002-01-07
Leesburg, VA

  First off, it's not a true competitive market. There is only one company that owns the last mile in any given LATA. Therefore if you want DSL you're basically at that LECs mercy. Here in the 21rst Century Fiber to the Curb is a liability.

I live in what is described as the technology corridor in the D.C. area and have been waiting for DSL for over 5 years. Many major high tech corporations employ many of my friends and neighbors. Only within the last year has 2-way high speed cable been an option. So where are the options? Where are the victories? Verizon has publicly stated that they prefer to stay in litigation before they would consider opening their markets. It's a fools play. While they drag their feet they lose more potential customer to the cable companies. Just wait until these same cable companies start to offer VoIP. Which in today's terms is any day.

I would rather companies such as Verizon focus on providing a better product to all they serve instead of wasting time with sales gimicks. Consider the motivation for Verizon to provide SAT. It's nothing more than an attempt to get back at the cable companies who are taking their business away.

As for the a single bill? Who cares. If you make electronic payments you don't even notice.

Lastly to the "tiny-ass" kingdom - it's the LECs that are trying to stifle competition. Just read the reports on the lobbing efforts of these same companies.

Oh and BTW, I won't pay the cable companies, I have DirecTV, and I still use Dial-up. It's the principle. Where's my DSL service? Oh it's stuck in some non-provisioned DSLAM in a Verizon warehouse.
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