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T0rn Premium join:2001-05-11 USA	reply to SND2005 Re: Hmmm.... said by SND2005 : I bet if people spent half as much time trying to crack other browsers and Linux that there would be just as many issues. So to all you smug users of other browsers- just wait, your time is coming. Microsoft is a target, that's why.
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ikarus1 Premium join:2002-10-23 Urbanna, VA	said by T0rn : said by SND2005 : I bet if people spent half as much time trying to crack other browsers and Linux that there would be just as many issues. So to all you smug users of other browsers- just wait, your time is coming. Microsoft is a target, that's why. Naw... Microsoft is a joke that is why. Look it is really simple. It really is, and you Microsux lovers are in serious denial... We (Computer Scientists) have known for forty years that it was stupid to allow Joe $hit the RagMan... AKA LUSER to run with administrative privs on any system. Now, kiddies, the truth is Microsux knew that when they started down this path. They knew they shouldn't let, "Bubba LUSER", run with admin privs but they did not know how to get around the problems that would cause with MS-DOS apps and their installed base.... sooooo.... they just decided in their marketing driven engineering shop to IGNORE CONVENTIONAL PRUDENCE... They knew they shouldn't do it. They did it anyway. Now they are running on top of some forty or fifty million lines of code that was written on top assumptions which are known to be BAD PRACTICE. They aren't going to fix this problem because they can't fix it. Their system is a monolith, commonly recognized as BAD PRACTICE by the Computer Scientists world wide. Their monolith presumes the user at the console should have administrative rights, commonly recognized as BAD PRACTICE by Computer Scientists world wide. Kiddies... this is not that hard to understand... but there are some who are so deeply in denial that saying it won't help... Microsloth knowingly screwed the pooch to ensure that they kept market share, with the mistaken belief that they could defy conventional wisdom and survive it. NOW YOU ARE PAYING THE PRICE... and kiddies, that is something you can't deny. -m- -- »www.freeantennas.com
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Freezone join:2000-09-29 Southfield, MI	said by ikarus1 : Microsloth knowingly screwed the pooch to ensure that they kept market share, with the mistaken belief that they could defy conventional wisdom and survive it. NOW YOU ARE PAYING THE PRICE... and kiddies, that is something you can't deny. -m- Well, I am pissed I did not think of doing what MS did first . Having Bill Gates money does not hurt at all. I am sure he losses sleep everynight with all the trouble he has caused. Microsoft survived becuase they are a business. We had and have better OS made by scientist. Scientist are still pissed that us LUSER have the power that we have. For the better part of the last 40 years computing belonged only to the scientist. Companies like MS and Apple came and gave some of that power to the people. I thank god for the PC, becuase I am glad the world of dumb terminals did not survive. Despite the constant problems with windows I will keep my computing power in my own controll thank you.
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roahboah join:2000-08-18 Rumney, NH	reply to ikarus1 said by ikarus1 : said by T0rn : said by SND2005 : I bet if people spent half as much time trying to crack other browsers and Linux that there would be just as many issues. So to all you smug users of other browsers- just wait, your time is coming. Microsoft is a target, that's why. Naw... Microsoft is a joke that is why. Look it is really simple. It really is, and you Microsux lovers are in serious denial... We (Computer Scientists) have known for forty years that it was stupid to allow Joe $hit the RagMan... AKA LUSER to run with administrative privs on any system. Now, kiddies, the truth is Microsux knew that when they started down this path. They knew they shouldn't let, "Bubba LUSER", run with admin privs but they did not know how to get around the problems that would cause with MS-DOS apps and their installed base.... sooooo.... they just decided in their marketing driven engineering shop to IGNORE CONVENTIONAL PRUDENCE... They knew they shouldn't do it. They did it anyway. Now they are running on top of some forty or fifty million lines of code that was written on top assumptions which are known to be BAD PRACTICE. They aren't going to fix this problem because they can't fix it. Their system is a monolith, commonly recognized as BAD PRACTICE by the Computer Scientists world wide. Their monolith presumes the user at the console should have administrative rights, commonly recognized as BAD PRACTICE by Computer Scientists world wide. Kiddies... this is not that hard to understand... but there are some who are so deeply in denial that saying it won't help... Microsloth knowingly screwed the pooch to ensure that they kept market share, with the mistaken belief that they could defy conventional wisdom and survive it. NOW YOU ARE PAYING THE PRICE... and kiddies, that is something you can't deny. -m- Okay, great. Do you actually propose an alternative, or are you just pointing out Microsoft's apparent greed and/or sloth? Thanks, roah
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ikarus1 Premium join:2002-10-23 Urbanna, VA	reply to Freezone said by Freezone : I thank god for the PC, becuase I am glad the world of dumb terminals did not survive. Despite the constant problems with windows I will keep my computing power in my own controll thank you. No Bill will keep your computer in his control and let you think that you have control... »www.nsclean.com/nsakey.html -m- -- »www.freeantennas.com
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ikarus1 Premium join:2002-10-23 Urbanna, VA	reply to roahboah said by roahboah : said by ikarus1 : said by T0rn : said by SND2005 : I bet if people spent half as much time trying to crack other browsers and Linux that there would be just as many issues. So to all you smug users of other browsers- just wait, your time is coming. Microsoft is a target, that's why. Naw... Microsoft is a joke that is why. Look it is really simple. It really is, and you Microsux lovers are in serious denial... We (Computer Scientists) have known for forty years that it was stupid to allow Joe $hit the RagMan... AKA LUSER to run with administrative privs on any system. Now, kiddies, the truth is Microsux knew that when they started down this path. They knew they shouldn't let, "Bubba LUSER", run with admin privs but they did not know how to get around the problems that would cause with MS-DOS apps and their installed base.... sooooo.... they just decided in their marketing driven engineering shop to IGNORE CONVENTIONAL PRUDENCE... They knew they shouldn't do it. They did it anyway. Now they are running on top of some forty or fifty million lines of code that was written on top assumptions which are known to be BAD PRACTICE. They aren't going to fix this problem because they can't fix it. Their system is a monolith, commonly recognized as BAD PRACTICE by the Computer Scientists world wide. Their monolith presumes the user at the console should have administrative rights, commonly recognized as BAD PRACTICE by Computer Scientists world wide. Kiddies... this is not that hard to understand... but there are some who are so deeply in denial that saying it won't help... Microsloth knowingly screwed the pooch to ensure that they kept market share, with the mistaken belief that they could defy conventional wisdom and survive it. NOW YOU ARE PAYING THE PRICE... and kiddies, that is something you can't deny. -m- Okay, great. Do you actually propose an alternative, or are you just pointing out Microsoft's apparent greed and/or sloth? Thanks, roah Sure. Linux and FreeBSD are both mature enough for the desktop, have excellent applications... shoot the other day I was running OpenOffice and working with Excel spread sheet files... OpenOffice is as good as MS Office and that is the application that is keeping business people from migrating to a free operating system. It is like IBM is saying in their ads, "The Future is Open". Get on board or get left behind. -m- -- »www.freeantennas.com
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Freezone join:2000-09-29 Southfield, MI	reply to ikarus1 Rather think I do then what your scientist had in store for me. Talk about big brother.
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mujahid0 join:2003-08-09 Hayward, CA	reply to Freezone Bravo Freezone! Well said, I add my voice to yours!!
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Beeper Part Of The Problem join:2001-09-27 Dayton, OH clubs:	reply to ikarus1 said by ikarus1 : We (Computer Scientists) have known for forty years that it was stupid to allow Joe $hit the RagMan... Yours is the superior intellect. -- Guaranteed Fear and Loathing. Abandon all hope. Prepare for the Weirdness. Get familiar with Cannibalism.
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rtcy FACTS only please Premium join:1999-10-16 Beverly Hills, CA ·Verizon west (ex G.. ·Verizon FIOS	reply to T0rn we've all heard this threat since the early 90's and so far there's been 2 minor flaws in Netscape a.k.a Mozilla, and they were truly harmless. there's at least 1 per month on IE or OE or Outlook, and let's not forget the whole Office suite, that also relies on Active x and many of the same DLL's that were once not FORCEFULLY entrenched in the OS. remenber when you COULD unistall IE? in early 95, then they decided to FORCE it in the desktop.
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BSDUser @verizon.ne	reply to ikarus1 Computer scientist you are not, a prepubescent you are. Seriously, I bet you're a closet Windows user. I use Microsoft Windows (notice the lack of script kiddie/Linux zealot mis-spelling(s) of Windows and Microsoft) and like it. I also use FreeBSD and Linux. (Gasp!) and love them as well. They have their places. If you don't like it, then don't use it. Simple huh? Remember, Linux is for people who hate Windows. BSD is for people who love Unix.
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nixen Rockin' the Boxen Premium join:2002-10-04 Alexandria, VA ·Cox HSI ·Speakeasy	reply to roahboah said by roahboah : Okay, great. Do you actually propose an alternative, or are you just pointing out Microsoft's apparent greed and/or sloth? It's called use an operating system that enforces privlege levels and separation. Any UNIX variant does this. And no, I'm not a Linux zealot. All you have to do is look at Apple's OS-X (built on top of BSD). Hell, the people at MicroSoft that first came up with NT were ex-VAX people and knew better than to create the current mess. NT sorta used to have separation. Then, they decided, "let's take our consumer OS line and our business OS line and merge them." Unfortunately, in the process, they gutted the miniscule level of protection that was in their business OS line. But hey, it shure duz play gamez real good. Hope every last Windows user who doesn't protect themselves from MS design defects learns the hard way what crap they're using. -tom -- "There are 10 types of people in the world... those who understand binary and those who don't." "That's only 2 types of people, moron"
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ikarus1 Premium join:2002-10-23 Urbanna, VA	reply to BSDUser said by BSDUser: Computer scientist you are not, a prepubescent you are. Seriously, I bet you're a closet Windows user. I use Microsoft Windows (notice the lack of script kiddie/Linux zealot mis-spelling(s) of Windows and Microsoft) and like it. I also use FreeBSD and Linux. (Gasp!) and love them as well. They have their places. If you don't like it, then don't use it. Simple huh? Remember, Linux is for people who hate Windows. BSD is for people who love Unix. said by BSDUser: Computer scientist you are not, a prepubescent you are. Seriously, I bet you're a closet Windows user. I use Microsoft Windows (notice the lack of script kiddie/Linux zealot mis-spelling(s) of Windows and Microsoft) and like it. I also use FreeBSD and Linux. (Gasp!) and love them as well. They have their places. If you don't like it, then don't use it. Simple huh? Remember, Linux is for people who hate Windows. BSD is for people who love Unix. Computer Scientist, I am. and child if we're remembering, let us remember that 'BSD' ain't System-V, and SCO is sueing for the right to take OpenSource off the net. If there is one thing I'll garauntee you it is that the BSD you use DOES* violate SCO's rights... Duh... now go learn something and come back when you understand wheel... -m- -- »www.freeantennas.com
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ikarus1 Premium join:2002-10-23 Urbanna, VA	reply to Beeper said by Beeper : said by ikarus1 : We (Computer Scientists) have known for forty years that it was stupid to allow Joe $hit the RagMan... Yours is the superior intellect. Education does not equate to intellect... Microsoft employees Computer Scientists as well... You figure it out, it isn't really that difficult. -m- -- »www.freeantennas.com
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anotamous @66.168.x.x	reply to nixen I don't suppose you've ever looked at a functioning active directory structure, have you? Don't bother answering... most people who sit back all smug in their guru chairs wouldn't dare dirty their hands on a Windows machine. My company has been in business for over 22 years, and I have to deal with (read: fix) systems of all makes, running every OS you can think of. Yeah, I even have punks bringing in Solaris crap. Trust me, chief, the line seperating Operating Systems is getting thinner. You say look at OS-X? I say look at 2k, XP, Longhorn, 2k3... they're all just Unix with a pretty shell. Sure, that'll probably give you a coronary or whatnot, but you can't deny the truth. Any tech worth two cents will agree.
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