 Anon | Yes, I got FOC'ed... did I ever!
Now these people at Verizon are suggesting that I can't get wired for DSL because I have to have the property TRENCHED for a line!
I'm lookin' at the freaking phone lines from my window as I write!
I just got off the line with the ISP and the state representative's office about this mess.
The next step is a lawsuit. And I hope they have a mole here reading every line, 'cause I'm a damn good writer and photogenic as hell... some court time would be FUN! -- Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die. |
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| said by Chipinphilly: Now these people at Verizon are suggesting that I can't get wired for DSL because I have to have the property TRENCHED for a line!
I made a comment on the board here a few months ago that Verizon can't see anything because of where they have their head. Sounds like it still goes.
I was TRENCHED for my Northpoint line, it took a hour and was done by some contractor. They only buried the line about 6 - 8 inches down. The machine makes a slice in the ground and shoves the cable in. I swore at the time, the only reason the line ever got installed was the Verizon field installer. He co-ordinated everything. Any call to Verizon's office was totally useless.
Of course now I have a new telephone cable and no DSL but that's another story.
Have you complained to the PA PUC. Just to get another complaint on record.
Good luck getting FOC'ed.
Ron |
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 Anon | Now we're trying with Covad
Megapath has given up hope of getting service through Rhythms, and they have put in an order for Covad.
And it doesn't seem that DSLReports is allowing any new threads on the Northpoint board. -- Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die. |
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 Anon | New World's Speed Record for rejection?
Guess what? Verizon can't find us!
I think maybe, just maybe, trying through Covad isn't going to do squat. -- Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die. |
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  biv Bbr Biv Premium,MVM join:2000-09-26 Baltimore, MD
| Chip,
Verizon is the damn problem. I've now tried 5 different providers and I've suddenly gone from Northpoint's 12,000 feet to Verizon's 18,000-19,000 feet. They won't even install ISDN because they claim I'm too far. READ ISDN, NOT IDSL (which I also can't get because of Verizon).
I had 416/416 SDSL service and, at one time, was at 784/784 -- I ask you . . . how the hell did I get 700+ at 18,000 feet. IT IS NOT TECHNICALLY POSSIBLE. Add to that that I have no load coils and it is perfectly clear that I'm well inside 18,000 feet.
I'm working with Verizon right now on this issue, but I'm leaning toward a lawsuit. I have literally talked to 15 different Verizon reps and have gotten at least 10 different answers. The best one is that I never really had DSL and that I must have just had a fast modem connection. That's the best yet. . .
By virtue of their actions, Verizon is preventing me from any competing service. I find providers willing to provide the service, regardless of the distance, and Verizon refuses them a clean loop. They refuse to 'hot swap' the Northpoint line because my old ISP is in Chapter 11 -- Verizon claims it cannot legally touch the line and the old ISP will not (really cannot) release it.
Sadly enough, I've come to the opinion that they cannot be trusted or believed. Heck, I'd take their ADSL service if they'd only allow me to. |
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 Anon | I'm in with you on a lawsuit if you're interested. I'm sure we could get enough people out of here for a class-action to attempt to force Verizon to allow new DSL through.
The death of Northpoint and the assumption of AT&T of their equipment seems to have emboldened them to undertake a forced "long knife" action against their CLEC competition and their would-be end users. -- Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die. |
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| I also have been going around with Verizon and there inability to get my line free from the Northpoint problem, delt with this for 45 days trying to get Dsli up and running without any luck. One of the DSL people from Verizon even told me to change my number and the problem would be gone. Wrong answer still took about a week from that to get the dsl issue cleared up. As of now stuck on 56K and waiting till the end of the month when Comcast @home is up and running in my area. But would love to talk more about class action again Verizon. Without fail the worse people I ever had to deal with. |
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 Anon | reply to Anon Verizon is the holdup
We too are former Northpoint/Verio customers, disconnected March 30. We are at 10 weeks and counting. Trying to get DSL through Sprint ION. If anyone from Verizon could tell the same story twice; I would drop dead of a heart attack. After 45 days, and several back and forth bounces from Verizon to Sprint Verizon decides that we do not have facilities. After Verizon lied to us about checking the lines at the pedestal/box (we know that did not happen, because we tied box & pedestal with light twine, left a pair of scissors and a note that Verizon tech should check the line, then knock on the door to discuss what was found)Verizon decided that we could have DSL with another phone number(this will result in a partial do-over at Sprint ION adding another 25 days to the already 9 week process) Verizon would be more than willing to put us on a new Verizon order at more than double the price and from what I've seen, half the bandwidth and service(a client that I put on Verizon is down half the time) and the same phonelines are OK when Verizon will be the ISP. I'm in on a lawsuit. Have filed a complaint with the PUC, followed by an email detailing the events Thursday with the unchecked phoneline. Has anyone actually made it all the way through the red-tape with a multiuser connection and more than one IP address, the ability to host your own website and mailserver for less than $200 per month? If so, with who? I'm listening!!! Disgusted near Dallas |
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 Anon | reply to Anon Re: Yes, I got FOC'ed... did I ever!
Oh joy, oh joy... Verizon is now coming out on the 19th because of an evident problem on my line.
A problem? There's no damned problem! Verizon is refusing to allow me to contract with the provider of MY choice either because they feel that the business should be theirs, or because they themselves are in such a bind that they can't spare the time or man-hours to hook us up.
Everything smells like a delaying action. Well, it smells like something, anyway... -- Hello. My name is Chipinphilly. You killed my DSL. Prepare to die. |
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  biv Bbr Biv Premium,MVM join:2000-09-26 Baltimore, MD
| Well Chip, we must be dealing with the same damn idiots then. I just had a second technician come to my house to state the already obvious . . . I DID have Northpoint DSL after all. Yet Verizon techs at the C.O. still maintain that I am at 19,000+ feet (and yet I had a minimum 416/416 SDSL line throughout my year of Northpoint service). Every field tech has verified that I'm under 18,000 feet and cannot understand why they - Verizon - would block Rhythms or NAS from installing a new line to my house. Definitely sounds like a delaying tactic. |
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  PatientGuy I'M Way Deep Into Nothing Special Premium join:2000-12-11 Arlington, VA clubs: | reply to Anon Is this FOC still for a Megapath/Covad line? |
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 Anon | Yes, this is now through Covad instead of Rhythms. |
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| Man.. Fu** that.. Why not get OOL? »www.optimumonline.com As much as I may not be happy about my Telocity line, thank God it works because if it didn't, I'd be on cable right now. Well, not really, it's not available in my neighborhood yet.  -- OMARNYC.COM - My place on the web - »www.omarnyc.com |
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