Stewy85
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join:2003-01-16
Sharon, WI
clubs: | Good
WOOHOO! Maybe we can get cheap broadband now.
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Gandalf4503
join:2002-06-27
Las Vegas, NV | This isn't good. It's going to suck in the long run. |
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Balzer
Cat Man Dew
join:2000-12-18
Tulsa
 ·Cox HSI
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Good for who?
Well I'm glad that VOIP will take a hit as well.
BPL will hurt far more that it will help. What will YOU do when the EMS crews can't get the address right or a plane crashes in to a school? It's been said way to many times already. I think if anything happens due to BPL interference then the people that pay for it should be held accountable for any problems from the system. All radio services will be hurt by BPL!
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dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
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join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to Stewy85
Re: Good
said by Stewy85  :
WOOHOO! Maybe we can get cheap broadband now.
And Charter levels of service. *yawn*. it just simply isnt a good idea to pollute the airwaves when the best you're going to see(under optimal conditions) is 512kbps.
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Kommie
join:2003-05-13
East Haven, CT
| reply to Balzer
Re: Good for who?
said by Balzer :
Well I'm glad that VOIP will take a hit as well.
BPL will hurt far more that it will help. What will YOU do when the EMS crews can't get the address right or a plane crashes in to a school? It's been said way to many times already. I think if anything happens due to BPL interference then the people that pay for it should be held accountable for any problems from the system. All radio services will be hurt by BPL!
Ever hear of satellite ? How about Solar Power? How about battery backup ? I am sure the EMS Crews can easily replace the aging Ham... |
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rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
USA
| said by Kommie :
Ever hear of satellite ? How about Solar Power? How about battery backup ? I am sure the EMS Crews can easily replace the aging Ham...
Ummm, yeah, I've heard of satellites. Amateur Radio has about 25 or so in orbit right now. |
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Estragon
join:2003-06-20
Greenville, NH | reply to dvd536
Re: Good
Please remember than 512kbps is a 20X speed improvement for some of us out here. |
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Balzer
Cat Man Dew
join:2000-12-18
Tulsa
·Cox HSI
| reply to Kommie
Re: Good for who?
Did I say anything about ham radio? NO
BTW EMS crews don't use ham radio anyway.
Did I say anything about power? NO
I'm sorry that you hate yourself and your fellow man so much that you don't care about what is going to happen when they turn up bpl. But what and why should I care?
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God
IN Vilseck Germany
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join:2002-07-01
VILSECK, DE
clubs: | reply to Gandalf4503
Re: Good
suck it ham radio people .. welcome to the 21'st century .. |
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tenbase
join:2000-07-19
Alexandria, VA | We've been here for years, what have you been doing? |
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rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
USA
| reply to God
said by God :
suck it ham radio people .. welcome to the 21'st century ..
And we'll say "suck it up" when ingress interference from our transmitters take down the neighborhood BPL network on a regular basis due to the design flaws of the system. I hope you've got your Asian p0rn on video tapes, cause you're not going to get it off the net while your BPL is down.  |
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tenbase
join:2000-07-19
Alexandria, VA
| reply to rf_engineer
Re: Good for who?
Not to mention the amateur equipment on board the ISS and Space Shuttles.
Horse and buggy indeed. 
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BunnYwood
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join:2002-06-19
Sioux City, IA | reply to Estragon
Re: Good
And if you're that far out there the power company won't bother with you either. This takes as much new equipment as DSL does, that part is just ignored. |
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kfolsom
Where the fit hits the shan
Premium
join:2003-01-31
Yucaipa, CA
 ·Verizon west (ex G..
| reply to God
said by God :
suck it ham radio people .. welcome to the 21'st century ..
I'm sure the ham in your neighborhood will be more than happy to throw part 15 back in your face when you complain to him or her about his or her transmitter taking down your internet connection.
Oh, well. You wanted it. You got it.
Remember that hams are not obliged to back off but BPL is.
Who's suckin' it now?
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kfolsom
Where the fit hits the shan
Premium
join:2003-01-31
Yucaipa, CA
·Verizon west (ex G..
| reply to Stewy85
said by Stewy85 :
WOOHOO! Maybe we can get cheap broadband now.
Cheap, but fragile. Every time a ham transmits, you will lose your pipe.
When BPL folds, the customers will be left high and dry without broadband; but at least they will get to pay higher electricity bills to pay back the original investors.
WOOHOO!
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kfolsom
Where the fit hits the shan
Premium
join:2003-01-31
Yucaipa, CA
·Verizon west (ex G..
| reply to Kommie
Re: Good for who?
said by Kommie :
Ever hear of satellite ? How about Solar Power? How about battery backup ? I am sure the EMS Crews can easily replace the aging Ham...
Ever hear of solar storms? How about cloud cover? Battery backup is valid but clunky.
No one can replace hams.
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Tommyastro
join:2004-01-18
Poughkeepsie, NY
·RoadRunner Cable
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Tenbase wrote:
" Not to mention the amateur equipment on board the ISS and Space Shuttles."
The space shuttles haven't carried ham gear for a few years.
The ISS has a LOT of gear now though, including SSTV which hopefully will be up and running eventually.
Tom |
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Tommyastro
join:2004-01-18
Poughkeepsie, NY | reply to God
Re: Good
We'll see who's sucking it if or when they implement this thing. Better get the Chap Stick(tm) ready....
Tom |
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w2co
join:2003-07-16
Longmont, CO
|  reply to Tommyastro
Re: Good for who?
Yes I work the ISS via APRS Packet almost everyday with only 4watts from a handheld and an arrow antenna. Radio amateurs have been into satellites since before any commercial satellites were deployed. Again another mis-informed know it all loin lickin beaurocratic AH, who thinks they know everything about everything. Look bitheads, radio amateurs have been on the forefront of technology since the beginning of radio and of TV for that matter. Those cell phones with email now, we invented that, didn't know some bit heads would take it this far though. Now with an ancient concept technology like BPL you will eventually see that it will do more harm than good, when your garage door openers, baby monitors, TV channels 2-12, CB radios, are rendered useless.
Not to mention you cannot have a power strip or a UPS with EMI filtering in it either, it will block your beloved porn from comming into the building! You can thank the incompetence/money hungryness at the FCC for this. |
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tenbase
join:2000-07-19
Alexandria, VA
| reply to Tommyastro
To be honest I am not real familiar with the current state of the SAREX program. But three hams were on board Columbia when it went down. I do not know if they regularly take amateur radio gear up or not.
STS-114, which will launch hopefully this year (but probably in '05), will have six hams on board (KD5EDS, KC5ZSW, KC5ZSY, KC5KII, KD5TVP and KD5CHF/VK5MIR.) Someone better at least bring a 2m HT with them 
You are right about the ISS, they have a new TM-D700E and I think they are getting an FT-100 as well. Definitely no shortage of ham gear up there.
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