rf_engineer
join:2003-08-04
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February 17th, @10:24AM
| reply to GoodBuddy
Re: Good
said by GoodBuddy:
So I got 2 meters and 220 MHz confused. So UPS never developed the system. Big deal, it still proved to hams that they did not run the FCC.
OK, so corporate lobbyists run the FCC these days. Power to the people!....errrr... who wins ?
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As for encouraging vandalism, a Federal crime, etc. etc. I somehow doubt the FBI is going to come out and investigate a coax pinning, especially if you brought it upon yourself by deliberately interfering with other people's broadband communication.
You're out of your mind. I suppose you also consider it OK to start shooting at your neighbors when they have loud parties. I wouldn't condone deliberate inteference, but what's your criteria to consider it deliberate? Merely operating and using the spectrum you're licensed for.
Bottom line, it's a Federal offense, deal with it. The FBI may not be there, but you're in a different ballgame than a shoplifter at your local supermarket. I don't understand why someone would want to risk their freedom for the next decade of their life over some broadband issues, or why someone would encourage it. Perhaps we should coin a new term called broadband rage?
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I don't have to encourage such a thing, I'm just telling you that you don't want a bunch of pissed-off teenagers upset with you because you're deliberately ruining their online experience, especially if they figure out you're doing it just to be spiteful because you hate giving up any frequencies.
We've joked about online gamers and pr0n surfers being BPL's primary customers, but this is the first time I've actually seen someone seriously suggest that teens are a primary demographic.
Since you put it that way, I guess 5000 comment filers and various communications organizations better back down. We don't want pissed off teens rioting in the streets 
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You hams have a whole lot of bandwidth to play with already, why do you so begrudge others use of the bandwidth, especially for unlicensed applications? That bandwidth should belong to everyone, not just those willing to join your cult and play by the rules that the old farts at the ARRL insist on hanging onto.
I don't get your position. You have over 300 Mhz of available spectrum with less stringent emissions requirements in the ISM and UNII bands, where Part 15 applications were meant to be and thrive. You can legally radiate something like 4 watts in these bands and it's over 10 times the amount of bandwidth you have available in HF. Also, you can use HF frequencies simply by taking a test. How more public can you get? If you give it to BPL interests, the utilities own them, not you.
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The code requirement should have been dropped forty years ago.
I won't disagree with your basic premise on this (not that old timers died), but realize there were still international requirements for code up until about a year or two ago.
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And for the record: Yes, I am one of those who refused to study an antiquated form of communication just so I could hook up with a group of radio snobs. And no, I never either had my cable damaged, nor did I ever damage anyone else's equipment. But I know it happened, and it usually happened to people who thought they were the king of the airwaves and that nobody could touch them. And believe me when I say that hams weren't totally above doing a little vandalism toward other hams from time to time.
Your loss. But the only attitudes like you describe I hear on CB. People with bad amps, overmodulation, and echo boxes stepping all over each other.
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Now I fully agree with the comments about the CB'ers who pump out illegal power with harmonics all over the spectrum. But let's not play Pollyanna here and act like there's never been a ham who was totally unconcerned about how he was messing up his neighbor's TV reception. You probably wouldn't know about that because the neighbors probably wouldn't write the ARRL and tell them. But let's not pretend that ham radio doesn't have its share of bad apples (some of whom aren't even former CB'ers).
There's bad apples in Ham Radio, just like any other thing. But try to have an hour long conversation with someone on CB, not get interfered with, and actually get the other guy's real name and location. It's obvious you've rarely if ever listened to Amateur Radio.
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Perhaps my message was a bit more provocative than it needed to be but I think it is high time that hams realized that the radio spectrum is a public resource. For too long hams have treated it like a "members only" beach, when in fact the beach belongs to all the taxpayers. In my opinion, power line broadband will benefit far more people than ham radio ever did or ever will. And what I was really reacting to was the implication that hams would deliberately go out of their way to disrupt the broadband connections of their neighbors just to prove a point, when they could just as easily move their operations to another part of the spectrum. So whatever names I have been called really should be attached to those hams who intend to squat on frequencies to deliberately disrupt broadband, just because they think they can. At least until the neighborhood teenagers figure out what's going on, that is.
But Amateur Radio is a public resource. You don't have to win an auction or buy a license from an incumbent licensee. Part 15 users just can't run rampant all over spectrum. You just don't get it. But it's obvious that you don't feel any rules should apply to you, whether it's physical destruction of equipment or spectrum legislation.
And oh no, here comes Carson Daly and the whole teenage audience of MTV TRL to shut us down! Throw the switch! Pull the plug! Run for your lives!
Your arguments aren't based in reality. Instead of defending the technology, you attack Amateur Radio. I fully hope you attack FEMA, the military, shortwave broadcasters, intercontinental airline pilots, ship radio operators, the Coast Guard, and other snobbish HF users who so ruthlessly deny you the right to use the airwaves. |
