MikeB3
join:2004-01-20
Los Altos, CA
2 edits | [Equipment] Pulver Internet Phone Patch testers I have recently purchased a Pulver Innovations Internet Phone Patch (or IPP as they call it).
»www.pulverinnovations.com/ipp.html
I am using the IPP with two Sipura SPA-2000s using FWD.
Out of the box, I had it basically programmed and working in about 15mins. Tried end to end operation with the Sipuras in both directions and was successful. Overall fairly easy.
I am however investigating some minor issues with caller id (if one sets it up with caller id recognition, one doesn't have to enter a password before out dialling). Firstly, my problem turned out to be I didn't have caller id enabled in my Sipuras (Duhh). Now it still doesn't work all the time and I am testing more.
If there is anyone else out there who has tested a similar setup I would be interested to hear from you. Please email me /PM me.
If people are interested, I will write a little review (but only if I get some interest). I have some photos as well of the inside and outside.
Mike |
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| Newbie question. What is the is the patch supposed to do? |
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HooperPremium
join:2001-10-22
Villanova, PA | reply to MikeB3
I am very interested, especially if you can get it to work with vonage or the like. |
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MikeB3
join:2004-01-20
Los Altos, CA | reply to boggled
what the IPP (Internet Phone Patch) does It is typically used in situations like the following (just the same functionality looked at from two perspectives):
1. International call bypass
a) you make calls to another country and want to reduce the charges
b) get a pstn line in that country along with an internet connection, place a SIP Client adaptor in that country connected to the IPP.
c) When you make a call, you call to the SIP client adaptor in the other country and get local dial tone, then dial the number you want. Local call charge only.
d) calls to the local number are automatically transferred to your sip adaptor overseas.
2. Call transfer to another country
a) you move temporarily to another country
b) connect an IPP to your phone line and a SIP Client adaptor, and take another client sip adaptor with you to where you travel to.
c) calls to you home phone ring your sip adaptor where ever it is. In the other direction, you can dial out from your home line.
HTH |
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Re: [Equipment] Pulver Internet Phone Patch testers Hi, I have been using the IIP for a few weeks now. Works much better then the $49 PCPhoneline.com version. That device would not hang up often after a call and was only one directional. I use it in Bali Indonesia to call from my cellphone to my office and then hop to a SPA 2000 to call anywhere in the world for 95% lower charges then my phonecompany. I also have set it to forward call to my NY to my cell in Bali. Never had a problem. Voicequality much better the PCPhoneline (I guess for $200 that should be the case). |
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| The issue is the cost of the device. It is a bit costly, in my opinion. |
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| The choice from my side is being able to deliver a product that works based on my vision vs. the cost of other products which claim to do what the IPP does but in reality fail to deliver.
We designed the IPP based on the marketplace realities and spend a significant amount of time making sure we pass Part 68 of the FCC requirements - something just about no one else has done. While there are more features that I would like to see in the product, we decided to start shipping the product rather than innovate on the feature set which was keeping it in our development lab.
The IPP represents a part of my vision - and this is all about the ultimate empowerment of the consumer which in turn enables people to become a "personal telco." |
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| I've been using the internet phone patch for about two weeks now and have had very few problems. Two observations: When dialing into the patch from the SIP side, the initial voice-message is often clipped or finishes before the call processing is completed. This is not a problem in the IPP itself, and I know to enter my password even if I don't hear the message; however, I think it would be useful to be able to program a message delay or a message repeat if needed. I also would like to be able to set the number of rings before answer so I don't have to disconnect the IPP when I'm home and not using it. Hopefully new programming functions and capabilities can be added to the current units with a prom upgrade.
Overall, the internet phone patch works well and will more than pay for itself over the next year. I look forward to watching this product develop. |
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MikeB3
join:2004-01-20
Los Altos, CA
1 edit | Larry,
I have found exactly the same thing. I wondered why, becuase when I dial in on the same port using a phone it doesn't occur. I wondered whether it was the VoIP adaptor itself, and in the next step was planning to hook a phone up in parallel to see whether it was the IPP or the Sipura.
Voice quality is fine during calls.
Have you found CallerID working consistently? It works sometimes, but most of the time, I get the clipped message and guess I have to enter the password (which works fine through is a hassle).
Do you use the Sipura?
Regards
Mike |
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> Re: [Equipment] Pulver Internet Phone Patch testers
RESPONSE: We must have missed this one and it is not only fully of incorrect information but is also misleading.
> Hi, I have been using the IIP for a few weeks now. Works much better then
> the $49 PCphoneline.com version.
RESPONSE: Our product is actually $39 and has never been $49. Yes that right - only $39 !!!
That device would not hang up often after a
> call and was only one directional.
RESPONSE: We do not know who wrote this comment and do not recognize him as a customer and are a bit skeptical . Our product works in both directions. If he was one of our customers it must have worked well enough not to submit a trouble report or return the product as we offer a 30 day money back guarantee.
I use it in Bali Indonesia to call from
> my cellphone to my office and then hop to a SPA 2000 to call anywhere in the
> world for 95% lower charges then my phonecompany. I also have set it to
> forward call to my NY to my cell in Bali. Never had a problem. Voice quality
> much better the PCphoneline (I guess for $200 that should be the case)
RESPONSE: Both products simply connect 2 x two wire connections together and pass the audio through. This amounts to a conference circuit and there will natually be a limited amount of volume loss on the connection. It is a natural telecoms phenomenon. Outside this issue, no product will work for all applications as the condition of the outside line plant (i.e. the wiring the telephone company has installed from the telephone exchange to your home or offhice) is never known and may be in poor condition or incorrectly engineered. In the case of the latter, the issue may in certain cases only be rectified by an onsite line engineer through the application of additional inline resistors, load coals and similar devices. That's the technical reality.
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> Jeff Pulver answered the following:
> "The choice from my side is being able to deliver a product that works based
> on my vision vs. the cost of other products which claim to do what the IPP
> does but in reality fail to deliver.
RESPONSE: We are confident that we have no less than 1000 times the number of units installed than the IPP in at least 20-30 times as many countries. Our product was originally developed against ITU specifications accepted worldwide and the latest release now supports Bellcore/Ansi busy tone detection. We offer a 30 day money back guarantee on our product. |
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Re: Setting Outbound Caller ID With Voice Pulse Jeff Pulver wrote:
"While there are more features that I would like to see in the product, we decided to start shipping the product rather than innovate on the feature set which was keeping it in our development lab.** * The IPP represents a part of my vision - and this is all about the ultimate empowerment of the consumer which in turn enables people to become a "personal telco."
Jeff, how about a preview of coming attactions (e.g. features) to the IPP.
Stu |
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 usa2kBlessedPremium,MVM
join:2003-01-26
Canton, MI
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... Jeff, how about a preview of coming attactions (e.g. features) to the IPP.
Stu
And can older units be updated?
[OT] BTW: When will your book be out? [/OT]
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Jim -- USA2K ... VoIP on FWD & Vonage ... SEE: »www.usa2k.net
PSTN is a Legacy Gateway to VoIP, the new "phone service" |
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Re: [Equipment] Pulver Internet Phone Patch testers Big Billy,
Serial number of device is 03072046. Shipping forth and back to Bali Indonesia is not possible for a $39 (ok?) product. The device would not hang-up properly around 25% of the time. Perhaps it was a faulty unit...
I do have something negative on Pulver's device. The port for line A came off from the circuit board. One of the two feet was broken and the other somewhat bend. Fortunately the pins are not soldered to the board, so I guess with some superglue the port can be reattached to the board.
Regards |
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tzoy
join:2003-05-06
Chula Vista, CA | reply to MikeB3
have a problem and I hope you can help me.
The IPP works ok but, as soon as I finish a call, and try to make a second one right away, I get a busy signal. I have to wait a few minutes in order to make a second call. Its like if the IPP never hangs up the line.
Maybe there is a way to tell the IPP to finish the call? Anything you can tell me will help |
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MikeB3
join:2004-01-20
Los Altos, CA | I have done quite a lot of testing of the IPP.
It does hold the call up for about 10secs afterwards, but always (in my experience) hangs up then. You can tell if it is holding up the call by the light on the front.
How about testing it, and watching how long this light stays on for? |
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THIS PRODUCT DON'T WORK IN MY CASE !!!!
I can't find any support in pulver
Same Problem on 2 IPP : It don't hang up the line after a call
Someone have an Idea ??????
JM |
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Re: [Equipment] Pulver Internet Phone Patch tester I got the Pulver IPP & SPA-2000 from Pulver today. For the past four hours I have no luck in making the IPP work. It looks like that the SPA-2000 works as expected since I can make FWD calls and receive calls.
After configuring the IPP for 2-stage dialing I conected it to the SPA-2000. IPP-LineA to SPA-2000-Line1 and IPP-LineB to the phone line. I can call the SPA-2000 and after 2 rings the IPP picks up the call (I can see the green light on the SPA-2000 and the yellow light on the IPP) but that is where my luck stops. Should I hear a prompt for the user password? I can't hear a thing. Also, if I call line A and enter *# I don't hear any prompt.
When configuring the IPP I tried all the options for confirmation mode (choice #7) but still no luck.
Any ideas of what I might be doing wrong? Is the IPP unit defetive?
Thanks,
Stamos |
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MikeB3
join:2004-01-20
Los Altos, CA | I confirmed operation by connecting a phone in parallel to the cable linking the Sipura and the IPP. As soon as the IPP picked up the call I lifted the handset. Then I could hear what the IPP was doing. I too had some problems initially as I couldn't hear the IPP prompt, but it turned out to be an FWD problem in that audio was taking 10 seconds of so to be heard after the call was picked up, and hence the prompt was never heard....
You can call me on 226948 if you wish to discuss. |
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| An enhanced version of the $39 PCPhoneline.com FXS to FXO port converter is now available for sale. The new version supports detection of the reorder/fast busy and receiver offhook howler tones generated by North American Bellcore/ANSI compliant telephone exchange PSTN lines in addition to all the International Telecoms Union (ITU) compliant busy tones generated by popular gateways and ATAs previously supported. |
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