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natter

join:2000-12-18
Littleton, CO

reply to keyboard5684
Re: They could hire me

How do you use non-standard ports for email? Other servers won't look at 28 or something.

People forget it's a residential service and not a business one. If you want to send email, use smtp.comcast.net. Otherwise, block it. I'm sick of putting in cable modem users in my spam list. The few/stupid ruin it for the many. A shame, but life goes on.


Jeremy341
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join:2000-01-06
localhost

said by natter See Profile:
How do you use non-standard ports for email? Other servers won't look at 28 or something.
Other servers won't, but a hosting company can set their servers so that they accept mail on port 28 from their customers. It's a very simple thing to do, and I'd do it for my customers in a second if anyone needed it.

Plldwnyrpnts

join:2003-04-19
Chicago, IL

reply to natter
said by natter See Profile:
People forget it's a residential service and not a business one. If you want to send email, use smtp.comcast.net. Otherwise, block it. I'm sick of putting in cable modem users in my spam list. The few/stupid ruin it for the many. A shame, but life goes on.

Bullshit! Many people use their internet connections for things other than just surfing web pages and email friends and family. Once ISPs start blocking ports to protect/correct the stoopid (not the cable modem users,) the rest of us lose!

Rules, rules, and yet more rules won't make anything any better. It will make it stoopider!

jsouth
Jsouth

join:2000-12-12
Wichita, KS

If you need to run a server or have business needs you should use the business end otherwise you use the residential version. If you are running a server on a residential line be careful. A lot of ISPs consider that a TOS violation and could cancel your service. Cox blocked port 25 and it made people mad. I am glad they did it though. A lot of people who were complaining about not being able to do business and stuff with port 25 blocked were on residential lines and they were forced either to cancel service or get the business service. Either way it cut down the crap on residential lines.


RARPSL

join:1999-12-08
Suffern, NY

reply to natter
said by natter See Profile:
How do you use non-standard ports for email? Other servers won't look at 28 or something.

Most/Many SMTP Servers monitor not only Port25 (The MTA [Mail Transmission Agent] Port for Server-to-Server forwarding of Email) but Port587 (The MSA [Mail Submission Agent] Port that is SUPPOSED to be used to submit Email into the System instead of Port25). If an ISP REQUIRES the use of Port587 (along with SMTP AUTH as Required by the Port587 RFC) for all To-Be-Relayed mail submission to their Servers (no matter if it comes from their LAN or the Internet WAN) then they solve the issue of Trojan Spam Code pumping SPAM through their system.


technick
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join:2000-12-16
Loganville, GA

reply to Jeremy341
said by Jeremy341 See Profile:
said by natter See Profile:
How do you use non-standard ports for email? Other servers won't look at 28 or something.
Other servers won't, but a hosting company can set their servers so that they accept mail on port 28 from their customers. It's a very simple thing to do, and I'd do it for my customers in a second if anyone needed it.

That is the easy way of solving a problem, but it will cause more problems than it solves. I do not use my isp's mail personally for many facts, I prefer my own mail server as I can customize it, set other rules, and basically be the boss.

Maybe something like by default they block those ports on a per customer bases by default, and you can call in and have them remove those blocks.
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TimSpencer

join:2001-05-18
Arvada, CO
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reply to jsouth
In theory that makes perfect sense. In practice, paying for Comcast's Small Biz package does nothing for you. No static IP, can't run a server, I'm still using the same hardware I was on the residential side. All I'm getting for the addition $40/mo is a quicker response time if my circuit goes down.
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