niko01
join:2004-01-19
Houston, TX
| reply to justin
Re: Support the bill if big business oppose it
"Big business" opposes it because the definition draws in potentially legitimate software that has nothing to do with spyware. That legit software may, or may not, comply with the technical terms of this bill. Vague bills encourage litigation.
What you are not being told is that "big business" includes a wide array of organizations opposing this bill, including the Center for Democracy & Technology. What you are also not being told is that this bill was bought and paid for by 1-800-Contacts, which is based in Sandy, Utah, and is the result of its ongoing battles with predatory pop-ups from competitors.
"Big business" has offered to work with the sponsors if the'd make the bill less about the technology and more about improper use of the technology... |
|
dvd536
as Mr. Pink as they come
Premium
join:2001-04-27
Phoenix, AZ
| reply to Overdrive
said by Overdrive  :
EULA: who really reads them... I glance through it if it is a free/shareware prog to see if it is installing spyware... but with all of the mumbo-jumbo in there I wonder if even a lawyer could disect 'em.
that is of course my opinion.
When i see "Third party" in the install agreement the software goes into the bit bucket, not my hard drive.
--
You can never be too rich, too thin or have too much Bandwidth |
|
CCCMTech
Premium,VIP,MVM
join:2002-05-17
Pound, VA
| reply to PhoenixDown
I know, so I think the EULAs will be expanded upon to include such malware and HOPEFULLY an option to opt out. Most EULAs mention spyware now if you can read through all 10,000 words.
--
Thank you for choosing SBC Internet Services. My name is Rick. How may I help you today? |
|
PhoenixDown
-- Wants FIOS
Premium
join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
clubs:  
| reply to justin
yeah but we're not always given the option of 'opting' out and when we are the process is sometimes painful and tedious. There are a lot of people out there that don't know such information is being recorded and sold and the EULA agreements aren't always informative of such facts.
--
Help DSLR Claim 5th in SETI!! |
|
CCCMTech
Premium,VIP,MVM
join:2002-05-17
Pound, VA
| reply to Overdrive
EULAs are like a CYOA clause, but this only prevents prosecution on the basis of "they didn't know it was going on"
If the outlaw it, it will bring up questionable suits, basically the EU agreed to install such software and had a chance to opt out, etc.
--
Thank you for choosing SBC Internet Services. My name is Rick. How may I help you today? |
|
PhoenixDown
-- Wants FIOS
Premium
join:2003-06-08
Fresh Meadows, NY
clubs: | reply to justin
I hope other states do the same! |
|
Overdrive
Are You Where You Want To Be?
Premium
join:2001-05-31
Waterbury, CT
| reply to justin
EULA: who really reads them... I glance through it if it is a free/shareware prog to see if it is installing spyware... but with all of the mumbo-jumbo in there I wonder if even a lawyer could disect 'em.
that is of course my opinion.
--
Need a Web Developer? |
|
CCCMTech
Premium,VIP,MVM
join:2002-05-17
Pound, VA | reply to justin
I agree with the must be great if businesses hate it, for the most part anyway.
The biggest problem I see is enforcement.
--
Thank you for choosing SBC Internet Services. My name is Rick. How may I help you today? |
|
justin
Australian
join:1999-05-28
Brooklyn, NY
Host:
IPv6
Business Connectiv..
Home/Office setup ..
Console/Handheld g..
Console Tech
| As far as i am concerned if big business hate this bill because they have to be just a little bit careful not to run afoul of it when installing call-home plugins on your PC, and that is the main reason they oppose it, then the bill is great and should be supported.
There are legal rules in print advertising they have to live with, they should live with legal rules online as well. I can't think of how consumers would lose if software companies have to detail to you, the user whenever they are going to change the function of YOUR pc so that it sends back MORE information, or other 3rd parties, than it did before. |
|
