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 scottT6
join:2002-10-29
Lower Sackville, NS
| i totally agree aliant sux now..... i have had mpowered for about 2 years now and it was great no problems at all.but ever since they capped speeds at 1.5mb DL everything has gone to hell.about the first week of october my ping times for games DOUBLED and so did the packet loss...absolutly pathetic. i took a screen shot of The All Seeing Eye program that i use to ping servers for games and couldn't get one under 200..laff
so hows eastlink in lr.sackville for gaming cause i dont think it could be anywhere as bad as this.
*to aliant brass- thx for wrecking one of the top 5 DSL providers in north america and reducing it to a crappy vehttp://www.dslreports.com/speak/review,30933;L2NvbW1lbnQvMTY3My8zMDkzMw==;really?attach=1
Got attachments?rsion of roadrunner. | |
| | touched7
join:2002-08-20
Dartmouth, NS | Re: i totally agree aliant sux now..... Eastlink is good long as you dont plan on hosting any games, i tried host a game for my Ghost Rcon clan and could host no more than 5 people thx to eastlinks new cap.
Good luck.... | |
| | Gwarsbane
join:2002-10-29
Lower Sackville, NS
| When talking to the monkeys at tech support (I call them monkeys because well why not, they have hands and feet but don't know how to do tech support how would you explain them  ) they said that Aliant is capping the speed right across Canada to 1.5 megabit.
They have also said that they are talking about having a 3 level system. One person said that the 1.5 megabit for 50 bucks a month will be the middle level, one person said that what we had before for 10 bucks more would be the top level, while someone else said something different. But no matter what all the monkeys said differently they all said that its just in talks right now and nothing is confirmed.
People on other connections can believe what they want to believe but I know for a fact I had a 8megabit connection. The only problem was finding places that could pump that out. I've downloaded at 2 megs a second from one university server. I've also seen myself downloading 21 items at once and all of them comin in at 100k/sec and uploading at the same time with 4 or 5 items all coming in at 50k/sec to 100k/sec.
Mpower was the fastest and best home net connection that was around. None of my friends on cable (local or world wide) could get the speeds that I was getting. Same goes for all my world wide friends on DSL and a few that I know on T-1s. | |
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Istolemostofthisfrom
@aliant.net
| Re: i totally agree aliant sux now..... Bandwidth costs a lot of money and prices aren't going down, $40 a month doesn't cut it when a lot of people are using a lot of bandwidth. Look at the modem next to your machine. That costs a few hundred dollars that you don't have to pay, Eastlink and Aliant eat that cost for their customers. Both Eastlink and Mpowered wanted market share, so prices stayed low for a while. Mpowered expanded faster and got a lot more customers initially. More and more people are downloading movies and music and such, costing Aliant a ton of money in bandwidth charges. They had to cap people in order to keep making money. Eastlink WILL have to cap people eventually (both are probably going to have to go the tiered route with PPPoE) but they'll wait a bit until they get more of Aliant's customers who switch over. Then when THEY cap, everyone will be the same (or Eastlink might cap a little bit higher) and there won't be any reason for customers to switch back.
They will offer a tiered service at some point in the future. A friend in Moncton has dial up through NBTel and he says they're coming out with a "Lite" version of DSL soon that costs the same as their dial up, presumably to
compete with Rogers and to get people to switch from dial up. Obviously if they can step down, they can also step up and it wouldn't make sense not to. They'll cap it where it was before and charge people more. In effect charging people for what they want to use, one of the complaints made by some of the folks whining about the cap.
The contract you signed says (at least mine does) that MTT doesn't gaurantee any speeds and they reserve the right to change them at any time.
Finally, I had mpowered before the cap, and mpowered after the cap. Nothing has changed at all except for my downloads from other friends who have mpowered, and I notice a bit of a drop if I try and download ten things at
once from other people around the world. Since I don't sit in front of my machine staring at the screen waiting for a movie to come in, the fact that my downloads take two hours now instead of one, doesn't bother me at all. There are very few servers or people out there that can upload to me faster than 1.5Mbps. My pings to game servers haven't changed at all. I still get pings in the 40's and 50's.
I've also had nothing but good results from tech support. Anytime I've had a problem, I told them what I did, they asked a few questions and sent it off to their testing department. Within a day my problems were solved. I called them up about 5 minutes ago and asked about tiered pricing. I was told that no one in the tech support department would have any idea about the pricing or different levels with the exception of the lite service they'll be releasing in NB and a few months from now in NS aswell.
As an aside to whoever said Aliant was capping everyone across Canada, that would be a little tough since they only own the four maritime telco's. | |
| | | | scottT6
join:2002-10-29
Lower Sackville, NS
| Re: i totally agree aliant sux now..... great aticle that was on slashdot a while back that u should probably read on ISP and "bandwidth hogs" there mr.anonymous »www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/6600
"Both Eastlink and Mpowered wanted market share, so prices stayed low for a while. Mpowered expanded faster and got a lot more customers initially"
-and now they cut service but not price, wow! a classic bait and hook scenario.
"More and more people are downloading movies and music and such, costing Aliant a ton of money in bandwidth charges. They had to cap people in order to keep making money."
-then capping speed won't really accomplish that would it a monthly transfer cap would.basically a flat rate covers the cost of all the bandwidth as the low bandwidth users will essentially pay for the high bandwidth users.
»yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid···#4533864
u have the classic stance regarding the whole bandwidth hog issue that i have read about countless times before in order to justify a cash grab from the telcos (telco in this case). | |
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Mr Anonymous
@aliant.net
| Re: i totally agree aliant sux now..... Although the low end users might pay for the high end users, breaking even, or a small profit, isn't what companies are in business for unfortunetly. Every company is out to make money. They're in business for themselves and for their shareholders. They're going to try and make as much money as they think they can get away with.
I'll agree that a transfer cap would cover the bandwidth argument a little better than a speed cap, but it would also piss off a lot more people, and since everyone's not on the PPPoE system yet, it would probably be tougher to implement. Tiered speed pricing isn't offensive to me at all. I went from $20/month dial up to $40/month DSl for faster speeds. It doesn't bother me that I paid more for faster speeds, it's pretty much what I expect out of every purchase I make in life. I'm prepared to pay for what I get. I think a speed cap is a lot different than a transfer cap. Finding someone to send me stuff at faster than 1.5 Mbps is pretty tough. My mpowered connection is rock solid and I couldn't be happier with it. A speed cap won't limit any "emerging technology" (from the article) like a transfer cap will. If it takes me longer to get something through IRC, I don't really care, I'm not worried about hitting any kind of transfer limit.
The only greasy thing Aliant did was not tell anyone when they made the switch. They're legally allowed to do what they want with speeds. That's the only part of the whole scenario that pisses me off. I'd be ok with paying $10 or $20 more a month to get an mpowered connection that was at the previous cap (I think it was something like 3Mbit down, 1Mbit up) but I would have appreciated being told about it first. If they came out and said that mpowered was going to cost $50 a month instead of $40, I would have accepted it as a price increase and not really cared. | |
| | | CANTECH
join:2001-12-12
| I remember when I could download regularly at 500k/s
it was not hard to find that speed.. I now can only get 150k/s because of the cap. However, i do get that consistently. I dont like using PPPoE however. I would much prefer to be able to use PPPoA. I have a cisco678 modem/router. Aliant actually sent me a comtrend.. the cisco is my own. Anyway.. in order to connect using the cisco I have to program it in bridged mode and establish my connection from my pc - ( just like I do with the comtrend ). The cisco has much more capability than that. It can do routing and NAT which I would love to be able to do with it. Unfortunately, Aliant does not want anyone networking unless you buy another ip address from them and network that way, so there is not much chance of being able to use that cisco. As a result, I am going to have to buy another router.. which I really hate to do because I know the cisco faily well and would rather be able to use it. So, unless anyone knows any tricks on how to authenticate PPPoE on the wan port of the cisco and be able to use NAT ( which btw I am pretty sure is not possible ) I guess I will be buying a linksys or something. By the way.. I do dsl tech support.. and I do know what I am talking about | |
| GoD_TPF
join:2001-06-15
Sydney, NS
| Okie doke.. You never signed up for an 8 mb line, as MPowered was RADSL, and could only reach the speeds attainable by the modems. I'm on a Cisco 678 modem here and the maximum throughput was 7168 k/s. Or roughly 7mb. And that was DOWN.
UP it will be much slower.
I already wrote a review below this one, check it out if ya want my opinions of it. I used to get 650 k/s downloads, its down to 130 to 140 k/s.
I'll admit this is still fast compared to what people in the states are paying and what they're getting. But what pisses me off is the total lack of warning from them, the lack of info, the LYING from them (they said gamers will not notice a ping difference. I used to ping 50's to east coast servers, I can't get below 200 now). | |
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Mr Mpowered
@aliant.net
| Re: Okie doke.. I'm a gamer and my pings have somehow gotten better than what I had with my Eastlink connection (I switched when I moved in September). I'm consistantly in the low 50's to high 40's, wheras with Eastlink I was getting in the 70's on average. I'm in downtown Halifax, so load might have been an issue in my area. | |
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