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 The Mouser
join:2003-10-18
Lakewood, OH
|  Old Houses + New Wires
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| | Chriznat20
join:2003-11-09
Roseville, MI
| Re: Old Houses + New Wires Help! I bought a house built in 1950. I had my brother come out (hes an IT specialist) and run new wire from the "block" in my basement to my computer room. He ran cat 5e wiring. However, my DSL connection with SBC Ameritech is only 135/120. I am very frustrated, Ive had it since Thursday, today is Sunday and its gotten slower since Ive gotten it!!!!! I installed the filters am using the wiring they gave me with the DSL modem. What gives? | |
| SBC ST
join:2003-08-05
Strongsville, OH
| Whats with the cat 5? (dedicate that COAX line in case you plan on getting satellite! and if not, do it anyway!!!) | |
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Yeldarb
@mchsi.com
| Re: Whats with the cat 5? My cat5 came from Lowe's at the whooping price of $3.00 for 1,000 feet. I doubt you can get cat3 that cheap.
The story? I was wheeling my cart around the store one day and some shelf-stockers were setting all these boxes of wire out on a pallet. I overheard one questioning who would ever buy this crap anyway as I approached.
Most of the boxes were 3 pair phone wire, but there were two magical boxes of cat5 just waiting there for me.
Needless to say, all my phone lines are cat5 now, too. | |
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BS POLICE
@chcgil.ameritech | Re: Whats with the cat 5? Bull shit cat 5 cable can not be used for phone lines. And Cat three would never be $3 for 3 feet much less 1,000. | |
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join:2003-08-05
Strongsville, OH | Re: Whats with the cat 5? Yo, I never said it COULDN'T be used for DT, I said it SHOULDN'T. In my professional OPINION. | |
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copperdoctor
Premium
join:2003-12-08
Palatine, IL
| Re: Whats with the cat 5?
The dial tone leaving the central office and snaking its way through the city,subdivision,etc...was installed years and years ago (in many cases). Any new cable that's installed has no significant "CAT" designation, other than factory twist. I work on those lines, and trust me, the only "CAT" anything we ever find in a manhole or backyard is the floating,fluffy kind. Wiring every jack in the house with the most expensive wire may make a difference if A) speed is critical for constant data use or B) Like me, you need to know it's there because it's one less thing to check off if speed drops. For the average everyday surfer, however, the wire that came with the house and a NID splitter should be enough. | |
| | | | | | danspan
join:2003-12-09
Akron, OH
| Re: Whats with the cat 5? OK, here's my 2 cents on the cat3v.5e debate-as a former DSL installer for a CLEC, former SBC tech (thanks for the layoff), and current SBC DSL user, I put forth the following opinion: copperdocter is right on with the info about the outside cable being mostly old. Here in Akron, there is still a lot of lead (lead jacketed cable, with paper insulation on the completely untwisted or barely twisted pairs) being used. As a troubleshooter, I found the #1 cause of DSL problems to be: 1) old,single pr, untwisted drop wires (house to pole), with ancient splices and 2) old inside wire. Call telco about drop. Newer style drop wire has a shiny vinyl jacket, older drop is solid rubber with a distinctive seam running the length of it, or is rubber reinforced with cotton weaving, which is dull, somewhat rounded, and has a noticeable ridge on one side. About house wire-even if you use cat 3 or better to your computer jack, the lineshare DSL signal is still present in all of your jacks and wiring. The splitter (or filter) is not separating the DSL signal from the dial tone, it is only filtering the DSL 'hiss' from the dial tone. This means that the DSL is hitting every crappy wire, splice and used or unused jack in your home. Old, bad wire, corroded splices and jacks will have a significant negative affect on your speeds. One test you can try on your own-disconnect all wire at the network interface(box) on your house, except the pair going to your computer jack, and see if your speed improves. Reconnect other pairs one at a time until speed drops. This will be your offending pair/jack/phone/etc. Disconnect this pair again and see what jack you now don't have dial tone on. Often you will find that all the jacks you use will still be working, and the the bad wires were going to an unused jack or to abandoned wiring in the wall. The biggest offenders are bathroom jacks, basement jacks, and older 4-prong jacks. Hope this helps. | |
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DRCray
join:2000-12-29
Chandler, AZ
1 edit | BSPOLICE: LOL@U - Why would you say Cat5 can't be used for phone lines? I use CAT5e for my four phone lines (one of them is 1500/256k DSL) and it works great!! | |
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copperdoctor
Premium
join:2003-12-08
Palatine, IL | Re: Whats with the cat 5? My main complaint with higher CAT rated wire...try UN- twisting it to splice sometime!
Make ya wanna go wireless... | |
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join:2003-08-05
Strongsville, OH | I again, didn't say you COULDN'T. I have a headache | |
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copperdoctor
Premium
join:2003-12-08
Palatine, IL | Re: Whats with the cat 5? LOL@headache---Hands bottle of aspirin...there there...its only wire. | |
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join:2003-08-05
Strongsville, OH | Re: Whats with the cat 5? Yeah, I keep tellin myself that! | |
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