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<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:53:50 EDT</pubDate>
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<title>anybody use SuperPass antennas?</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23380276</link>
<description><![CDATA[wanted to get some feedback on this brand of antenna. I am considering getting some of their 900MHz horizontal to try out.

Anyone with any experience with them?]]></description>
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<pubDate>2009-11-22 19:18:27</pubDate>
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<title>Selling fixed 3G for additional revenue</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23379250</link>
<description><![CDATA[I spoke with a company this week that is offering to provide wholesale, unlimited 3G data to us that works on either the Sprint or T-Mobile network to the tune of $52 per month. Completely rebrandable. Volume over 100 accounts gets it down to $50 per month cost.

I was thinking this may be a valid revenue stream for those rural customers we are approached by on a daily basis that have no other service options.

My thought would be to provide a managed router (Mikrotik), fixed antenna and amplifier.

We would continue to charge our normal $300 installation.

It doesn't seem like it would be too much different than a normal install that we do and I would think many people would jump on a $99 unlimited plan.

That is higher priced than Millenicom but would include perks they don't offer. Lower priced than Accel by $50 a month...

Thoughts?]]></description>
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<pubDate>2009-11-22 14:41:30</pubDate>
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<title>[Equipment] Recommendation for Indoor Antenna</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23377137</link>
<description><![CDATA[I need some recommendations for an indoor AP setup.  They will be used for tablet pc's in a medical clinic/patient rooms.  It seems most indoor antennas are low gain so I'm not completely sure what the "norm" is.  I am planning on deploying rb433's with r52 cards as the wireless traffic will need to be routed over a VPN to a datacenter.

Thanks again.]]></description>
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<pubDate>2009-11-21 22:18:52</pubDate>
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<title>Anyone used these Canopy reflectors?</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23377612</link>
<description><![CDATA[I'm trying to find a reflector that will work on 2.4 to 5.7 and where we don't have to mess with the up/down tilt like the solid reflectors. I found these that seem to fit the bill but I'd like some feedback on them:

http://www.wirelessunits.com/members/pdfs/canopy_grid_specs.pdf]]></description>
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<pubDate>2009-11-22 00:37:42</pubDate>
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<title>Mikrotik Load Balancing</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23375277</link>
<description><![CDATA[Is there a way to get 'tik to do load balancing across 2 PPPoE client connections that receive DHCP addresses?]]></description>
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<pubDate>2009-11-21 14:00:52</pubDate>
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<title>Who provides your bandwidth/internet backbone?</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23361212</link>
<description><![CDATA[Hello all,

A colleague and I are interested in starting a WISP, we have many providers of internet in our area and I'm curious as to who you use as a provider and if you can possibly share what you pay for oyur bandwidth?

i.e. What would a 30 Meg pipe run? or 100 Meg etc?

Who can you purchase internet from for the purpose of reselling i.e. Comcast? Embarq, AT&T, Sprint etc.

What are your experiences?]]></description>
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<pubDate>2009-11-18 18:12:31</pubDate>
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<title>Mikrotik PPPoE/IPPools</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23378436</link>
<description><![CDATA[Hi All.

We're starting to configure our MT with 3 wireless interfaces to utilize PPPoE and Radius.   Have a quick question regarding the IP Pools.

Since we have 3 interfaces, am I correct in thinking we'll need 3 separate IP Pools that coinside with those interface's subnets?

Just thinking from a radius point of view; where we assign and pass the appropriate IP pool attribute...

It'd be great to say, "Give the customer an address from our huge pool", rather than "This new customer will be on sector 2, so he needs IP Pool #2".

I'm thinking maybe just giving everyone an IP complete out of our current scope (10.1.1.0/24 for sector 1, 10.1.2.0 sector 2), and give them a 172.16.0.0/16 address...then I'd just have to give appropriate routes and rules on my core router, right?

The other thing in mind is the fact that probably come mid-december, we'll have a fiber connection with an entire /24 of IP's that we'd like to distribute to those that would need them.  I'm curious as to if there's anything I should consider now in setting up private address space, knowing that we'll have public IP's available soon.

Any hints or advice?   ]]></description>
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<pubDate>2009-11-22 09:54:20</pubDate>
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<title>Anyone recommend a place re: 10db Hpol 900mhz 180* sector?</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23331982</link>
<description><![CDATA[
Looking for a 10dbi Hpol 900mhz 180* sector but cant even seem to find a manufacturer that makes one.

Looking for suggestions

Thanks.!]]></description>
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<pubDate>2009-11-12 15:17:25</pubDate>
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<title>[Equipment] Vecima VistaMax 3.65Ghz Field Test Results</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23376015</link>
<description><![CDATA[We received our Vecima VistaMax 3.65Ghz gear Thursday.

We purchased the "high power" basestation with a max output power of 27db.  We paired that with a Vecima/Hyperlink 11db omni.  We purchased the SU with the integrated 20db antenna to test with.

The point of this test was to see exactly how much of an improvement we would see over our Trango 5.8 gear in NLOS and near-LOS situations.  We have a WaveIP 900 system for most of our NLOS customers, and use the Trango 5.8 for LOS situations.

The Trango setup was an Access5830 with a 12db omni.  This is one of our "repeater sites" for the Trango, hence the omni.

Both the Trango and Vecima gear were on a 60 ft. tower - the Trango's omni at the very top on a mast, the Vecima's omni mounted lower (thus we could not test in the direction of the null created by the pole).  Thus the Trango had a slight (10ft maybe) height advantage.

We picked 4 locations to test where we previously had problems with the Trango.

Location 1 - 0.8 miles away, NLOS, tree blockage - SU tested at ground level (holding the SU in my hands) - previously could not get ANY signal on the Trango (tried stinger and reflector dish), even when mounted on a 50 ft. tower - Vecima at ground level was getting between -80db and -85db, was able to maintain QPSK 1/2 modulation

Location 2 - 0.5 miles away, near LOS, trees and houses, ground level - Trango works but with a weak signal, between -78db and -80db typically, has problems occasionally - with Vecima signal in the -60s, maintains 64QAM 3/4 modulation, no packet loss - also, can point the Vecima in the exact opposite direction of the tower, still maintains -80db signal and 16QAM modulation, no packet loss

Location 3 - 0.6 miles away, complete NLOS, heavy tree blockage - Trango did not work here, even on a tower - Vecima worked at ground level, signal in the -60s/-70s, 64QAM 3/4 modulation, no packet loss

Location 4 - just over 1 mile away, NLOS, trees and houses - Trango did not work here, even on a tower - Vecima just barely worked at ground level, signal approaching -90db, BPSK 1/2 modulation - note at ground level Vecima was blocked by a large house directly in the path about 25 ft. away - confident this location would work easily up on the customer's antenna tower

We would have tried locations further away, but this repeater site has a low height and also a low elevation, so anything outside a mile or so and we have a major elevation problem (hills in the way).

In any case, I was very impressed.  I expected slightly better results, but nothing like this.  The NLOS performance of this gear was a huge shock, with near 900mhz results.  I mean, when I say NLOS with heavy tree blockage, I'm not talking about a couple of trees - I'm talking about roughly 100 ft. of trees, when you look in the direction of the tower you see nothing but trees.  I was also very impressed how we could be pointed in the opposite direction and still pick up a usable signal - I assume that is the OFDM in action.  The bottom line is we did A/B comparison between Trango locations that wouldn't pick up a signal period (not just couldn't associate, no signal detected at all), even with a reflector on a 50 ft. tower, and then the Vecima locations would work on the ground with the integrated antenna with no packet loss and good modulations, and without even having to work on the aiming.

The build quality of the base station was also impressive, although the thing weighed a ton.  The build quality of the subscriber unit (basically a Tranzeo) was not as good, but the signal strength LEDs are very handy.

Per the WiMax standard, the SU's require DHCP to obtain their management IP (the AP can act as a DHCP server, or you can use your own, but they want you to use their NMS) - as a plus the SU's are literally zero configuration - you take them out of the box and they will associate.

The gear can be completely managed through the web interface of the AP, you can set service classes and service flows, see a list of connected SU's with their signals and modulations, etc - but there is definitely a learning curve.  Vecima highly recommends you use their NMS system for provisioning, logging, management, etc - but technically there is nothing you can't do without the NMS, it is just a little trickier.  If we roll this gear out into production I probably would get the NMS.

Our next test will be to put the basestation up on our 170 ft. main tower with a 90 degree sector, and also do some throughput testing (instead of just trusting the modulations and ping tests to give us an indication of speed), but for now we are pretty floored by the performance of this gear.

Ben]]></description>
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<pubDate>2009-11-21 17:34:58</pubDate>
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<title>Short Backhaul and Antenna Choices</title>
<link>http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,23361559</link>
<description><![CDATA[First a brief history: 

I am new to the whole wireless industry and I am working towards the possibility of setting up my own wisp. This forum has been very helpful on learning some of the ropes in the industry, this is no easy task i'm finding out.

This all started because I want internet that isn't satellite at my house. I'm going to setup a P2P link from town to my home, if i can manage that successfully I would then set up a AP and sell bandwidth to others in the area.

I've decided Mikrotik (RB433) coupled with Ubiquity (XR5) RF cards would be the safest bet for the backhaul but i'm kinda split on antenna choices. I'm looking at a 29dBi 5.8GHz Parabolic Grid or something like ARC IA Dual Pol 5.8GHz, 23dBi? From what i understand dual pol ant will allow the use of NStreme later on for upgraded bandwidth potential but the dbi gain isint as high.

I'm still trying to figure out radio mobile so I dont have a shot of the link yet, but the link is a 5 mile shot with from what i've seen so far will be a clear fresnel. 

Any input / advice would be appreciated. Trying to learn everything from tower safety to building networks from scratch is alot to soak in. Seems you must wear many hats in this industry. :D ]]></description>
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<pubDate>2009-11-18 19:18:35</pubDate>
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