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1 edit | Cool! Where does this thing get it's power from though? Otherwise, this would be a very nice enhancement for stuff if it can transmit through walls well as well. And $10 for a chip like this? That's cheap! | |
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 |  SteimesI make internetsPremium
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kudos:1 | Re: Cool! said by Smith6612:Where does this thing get it's power from though? Otherwise, this would be a very nice enhancement for stuff if it can transmit through walls well as well. And $10 for a chip like this? That's cheap! I imagine it would use a thin film battery.
The range of this device is very limited... which is actually a good thing for the type of applications it might be used for.
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|  MizzatWill post for thumbsPremium
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3 edits | said by Smith6612:Where does this thing get it's power from though? Otherwise, this would be a very nice enhancement for stuff if it can transmit through walls well as well. And $10 for a chip like this? That's cheap! This is really cool, but it costs about $10 to manufacture. They have to recoup costs for research and overhead, so it'll cost much more than that when it comes to market, but if it becomes widespread, the costs will go down dramatically. I like in the article how it mentions a video kiosk can upload a movie in seconds then you can download a movie in seconds when you get home. Even though we are moving to a home delivery via broadband, that would still be a meat idea for many applications. | |
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| | | | Re: Cool! Theres not really consumer storage devices that would be able to keep up with the 5Gbps throughput speeds, let alone even 1Gbps. | |
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kudos:1 | Re: Cool! said by SoilFlames:Theres not really consumer storage devices that would be able to keep up with the 5Gbps throughput speeds, let alone even 1Gbps. Not yet, but maybe in a year when this is released  | |
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kudos:5 | said by Smith6612:Where does this thing get it's power from though? Otherwise, this would be a very nice enhancement for stuff if it can transmit through walls well as well. And $10 for a chip like this? That's cheap! Its range is 10 meters or less(about 11 yards or 33 feet). Great for devices in an entertainment center talking to each other or as a replacement for bluetooth between PCs, cell phones, MP3 players, etc.
For moving data around a house, this isn't the technology.
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| | | Hey thats pretty straight we could use that right about now in digital cameras and cell phones. | |
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| | small chip that looks like the one that will be inserted in everyone as they are born in about 25 years or so............ | |
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| | | Re: small chip Here you go, I think you dropped this tinfoil hat back there...
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Santa Cruz, CA | Nah, that one is a lot smaller and shaped like a pin, but smaller. Spying on people will take less throughput than a movie requires.
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|  hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greedPremium
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1 edit | Re: Yawn ... $125 after all is said and done 
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| | PolarBear03The bear formerly known as aaron8301Premium
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| hopeflickerCapitalism breeds greedPremium
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kudos:1 | Re: Huh said by Dogfather:And you would need an HD film on a phone because? because teh sheeple will buy it, that's because.
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| | | | | Re: Huh Not yet, but give it time and I bet they will refine the technology.
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4 edits | ARRRGH! you said Transfer
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1 edit | Clarification "Two watts of power over ten meters" implies the device transmits two watts of power. This is incorrect. It uses two watts of power and transmits over 10 meters. That's 2000 mAH and would be a huge drain in devices like cell phones.
These components will enable things like thumb drives to transfer data without being physically connected to the source or destination, which is an interesting application. It's also after the "wireless" (literally) home theater installation where everything is connected via short-haul radio signals. Mostly, it's a replacement in Bluetooth-type applications.
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| Re: Clarification said by RadioDoc:It uses two watts of power and transmits over 10 meters. That's 2000 mAH and would be a huge drain in devices like cell phones. How did you get to the 2000mAh value??? Fuzzy math??? 
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1 edit | Re: Clarification said by cowboyro:said by RadioDoc:It uses two watts of power and transmits over 10 meters. That's 2000 mAH and would be a huge drain in devices like cell phones. How did you get to the 2000mAh value??? Fuzzy math??? Energy=Watts*Time=Volts*Amps*Time Let's see now...most of these devices run at 1-3 volts and two watts would require 2000 mAh at one volt for one hour. If you wish, we can assume three volts and a little less than 700 milliamp-hours. Either way it's a huge power drain in a battery-operated device, which is usually expected to run far longer than an hour on charge.
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kudos:2 | Re: Clarification Yeah I thought that too...especially on a cell phone.
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|  wifi4milezBig Russ, 1918 to 2008. Rest in Peace
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New York, NY | said by RadioDoc:"Two watts of power over ten meters" implies the device transmits two watts of power. This is incorrect. It uses two watts of power and transmits over 10 meters. That's 2000 mAH and would be a huge drain in devices like cell phones. These components will enable things like thumb drives to transfer data without being physically connected to the source or destination, which is an interesting application. It's also after the "wireless" (literally) home theater installation where everything is connected via short-haul radio signals. Mostly, it's a replacement in Bluetooth-type applications. I was thinking the same thing. This device will absolutely kill the battery of any cell phone its used in. Running AIM on your Blackberry alone will cut your battery life in half, I can only imagine what this chip would do! Still not a bad idea, but probably meant more for home appliances and PC's that have robust batteries or power supplies.
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| | RadioDocYeah, like it matters.Premium,ExMod 2000-03
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| Re: Clarification It's a great technology for avoiding connecting cables between AC-Powered devices or those which only see occasional use like thumb drive-type portable storage, but putting this in a cell phone as the linked article suggests is absurd.
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| | | | | Re: Clarification said by RadioDoc:It's a great technology for avoiding connecting cables between AC-Powered devices or those which only see occasional use like thumb drive-type portable storage, but putting this in a cell phone as the linked article suggests is absurd. Plus, at 60 GHz, I don't think it'll play well with solid objects. | |
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kudos:2 | Re: Clarification It plays just fine. Ping pong.
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| Lets also keep in mind that that may be the maximum power consumption for that transfer rate. No phone processor can handle data rates of 5Gbps let alone PCs. I also don't think you're phone would need to go through with the full 10 meters. That's a LONG distance for transferring something from your phone to a device at your house or work place.
Instead, this is probably for enabling of wireless HDMI or the like at full bandwidth. For a phone though or other mobile device as far as power goes you're looking at shorter ranges and less bandwidth requirements. Because of that power consumption can probably fall within the range of Bluetooth or WiFi at a much higher data rate.
Note too that that data rate more than likely reflects raw bits per second through the transceiver and doesn't take into consideration any protocol overhead including things like error checking, headers, etc..
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| | | actually you don't have to go that far in terms of mAH, plus you make an assumption on what voltages are used. i'd just look at how many joules the battery stores. my guess most cell phone batteries store less than 10 joules (mine only stores ~3.5 joules). just comparing 3.5 joules to 2 watts of consumption give ~1.75 seconds of usages assuming no losses anywhere and everything is ideal.
no matter how you look at it, this chip can only be used to short busrts of time, but at 5gbps, a very small amount of time translates into a large amount of data. | |
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| lazy? or worthless? "to quickly allow users to transfer HD films or other massive content between cellphone and PC. "
Too bad it will only be useful in a new generation of suitcase phones, to have enough battery and 50 gig's of flash memory.
( is putting a DVD in that hard?) | |
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| | Hmm I can see many MP3 players, and phones in the future using this chip.
Would be a great way to connect my MP3 player to the PC. Would be faster than USB as well. | |
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1 edit | Re: Hmm said by ShadezeRO:I can see many MP3 players, and phones in the future using this chip. Would be a great way to connect my MP3 player to the PC. Would be faster than USB as well. how bout i 1 up ya there, and say it can be used as a local(really local) area use age as external media drives, using the SATA interface as it's connection and sending over the wireless device.
think about it, instead of running a USB cable to your external drive, you just hook the wireless adapter to the PC through an internal(or external) sata port and it adds drives to the system without actually physically inserting them | |
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Other than that, it's cool tech. Whether it can be used for its intended purposes without drawing a lawsuit from the mafIAA is something to be seen.
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| | | Re: Waste of time How is it a waste of time...if this could be integrated into TVs and blu ray players,hi def receivers etc... I would defiantly be very intreasted it would have saved me alot of time running wires through my entertainment center, it would also make it alot easier to acheive the "picture hanging on a wall" type look many people are after using plasmas and LCDs | |
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