Would You Ever Head Back To Dial-Up? The Press certainly seems to think you're planning to... Earthlink is certainly gaining some free advertising with the media argument that the recession is driving people back to dial-up. Despite the fact the company really has no future business model, they recently excited the Associated Press by dropping the cost of service to $7.95 per month. The Tampa Tribune is also breathlessly suggesting the life of dial-up is being extended by the recession. The Orlando Sentinel takes things one step further, by using one person who might revert to dial-up to suggest there's a broader trend: With his work hours cut and an investment portfolio in the tank, Arnold Zimmerman is considering the unthinkable: ditching his blazing-fast cable Internet service and going back to dial-up. "I didn't think I would ever go back," said Zimmerman, 66, of Davenport. "I had to wait to get online. It was terrible. But with this economy, you got to look to cut wherever you can." Of course while times are hard for many, they're not that hard: most people aren't cutting luxury services like TV, carrier earnings reports indicate most Americans seem perfectly capable of paying their $150 smartphone bills, and there's absolutely no evidence so far that people are cutting broadband services (though it makes for good, scary reading). New broadband subscriber additions are down, though it has more to do with slow home sales and construction, not because people are reverting to a soul-crushingly slow technology of yesteryear. The mainstream press seems to forget you need a costly (and increasingly irrelevant) landline for dial-up. If anything, the recession may just accelerate the death of the landline, as people continue to save money by going with VoIP bundles -- or mobile phone only. But is anybody seriously planning on trading in their Surfboard modem for a 56kbps modem? Maybe because of the recession, we should downgrade to a Wildcat! BBS. Who's up for a game of Trade Wars 2000?
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 1 edit | .... I cut off my internet at home and now just use it at work. But when it comes to having internet or not, I think not is probably better than dial-up. Web pages are too big today to get much enjoyment from dial-up. I suppose email would still work ok.
The cost of the pots line to carry the dial-up would make stand alone cable or DSL more attractive for most, I'd think. | |
|  |  | | Re: .... ^^I've gotta agree with that^^. Anytime I roll down to my inlaw's farm where they only have dial-up, I find that I only get angry and frustrated trying to load even the simplest pages. Checking e-mail is a chore, and trying to buy anything or do even a small amount of research is all but impossible. No one is going back to 100 MB hard drives and no one is going back to dial-up if they have reasonable access to cable or DSL. | |
|  |  |  DrModemPremium join:2006-10-19 USA kudos:1 | Re: .... Heh I have 28k dialup you people are so spoiled... | |
|  |  |  |  | | Re: .... Indeed, but I guarantee that if you had DSL or Cable for any length of time, you'd never go back. Now that they have airplanes, no one takes a horse & buggy from New York to L.A. | |
|  |  |  |  |  cdruGo ColtsPremium,MVM join:2003-05-14 Fort Wayne, IN kudos:5 Reviews:
·Frontier FiOS
| Re: .... said by mlundin:Now that they have airplanes, no one takes a horse & buggy from New York to L.A. Coming from Mishawaka/Northeast Indiana area, you should know that's not true. There's still lots of horse and buggies being driven around by the Amish. Sure they may not take them from New York to LA, but that doesn't mean that a dial-up user never uses broadband either.
Personally, some form of high-speed internet would probably be the LAST "luxury" I get rid of. If it came down to eating, having a roof over my head, etc and broadband, sure broadband would go. But anymore and it's almost as much of a "necessity" as gas and electric. | |
|  |  |  |  |  DrModemPremium join:2006-10-19 USA kudos:1 | said by mlundin:Indeed, but I guarantee that if you had DSL or Cable for any length of time, you'd never go back. Now that they have airplanes, no one takes a horse & buggy from New York to L.A. I had DSL, I only went back because I moved and there was this :P | |
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 |  |  SLDPremium join:2002-04-17 San Francisco, CA | That is one of the reasons to design with proper HTML/XHTML, not just for the blind, but to give alteratives to people who wish to limit media downloads, Javascript. So many websites now rely on broadband with all the bells & whistles, but the underlying framework should allow a user to visit with images turned off, even with Lynx. | |
|  |  |  |  cacoPremium join:2005-03-10 Whittier, AK | Re: .... Totally agree, just try going to Espn.com on dialup. | |
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 |  ThrowDemsOutIf you can't convince 'em, confuse 'emPremium join:2002-03-03 Mullica Hill, NJ kudos:4 | said by Millenniumle:Web pages are too big today to get much enjoyment from dial-up. I suppose email would still work ok. I wouldn't go back to dial-up no matter what. I'd use wireless cell access before I'd use dial-up. But I can't see dropping my cable connection at 12/2 mbps for $42.95 a month for either dial-up or a wireless data plan.
Besides my Kindle 2 can access the Internet while traveling by using the included Sprint's 3G network for no additional monthly cost at all after purchasing the Kindle.
If you have to access the internet thru dial-up or wireless access, then you need to access all the web sites designed to be used on slower small screen devices. I have a web page setup that can link to all those sites: »tkjunkmail.googlepages.com/mobilelinks -- My BLOG .. .. Internet News .. .. My Web Page | |
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·Verizon FiOS
| NO Just got back from a trip where the hotel had free, "crippled" wifi (or faster if you wanted to pay $10/day). Since I'm cheap, I used the free product, advertised as 256k down/128k up.
faster than dialup, but frustrating as hell just for web surfing. web pages these days are so graphic intensive, surfing at dialup speeds would be like surfing in slow motion - you wait, then wait some more, twiddle your thumbs, wait some more, then your page loads.
I doubt I could take much of this before I just gave up. | |
|  | | Landline goes first I'd sooner ditch my landline than my fast Internet service. My wife and I often browse the Internet at the same time (on our respective laptops). If we went to dial-up, we might save on monthly ISP costs, but we would need to install at least one more phone line. Plus, we would have to put up with disconnections, slow speeds, and all the other headaches that we left behind when we went broadband. In fact, would dial-up even work over Time Warner Cable's Digital Phone line? If not, we'd probably have to go back to Verizon for phone service and thus pay more for our phone line. -- -Jason Levine Support a children's charity. Buy a calendar and/or a photo book. Shooting For A Cause | |
|  pnh102Reptiles Are Cuddly And PrettyPremium join:2002-05-02 Mount Airy, MD | This Is Silly The price of a landline alone makes dialup more expensive than the cheapest broadband options. -- Blagojevich / Madoff 2012! | |
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said by pnh102:The price of a land line alone makes dial-up more expensive than the cheapest broadband options. Agreed 100%. For example, the cheapest Verizon DSL is $20 a month. One of my neighbors is paying close to $50 for his Verizon land line (thanks to taxes/surcharges), on which he doesn't even make that many phone calls. -- Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies... A MESSAGE to the RIAA and the MPAA: You shouldn't wound what you can't kill... | |
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|  |  chrisPoor Impulse ControlPremium join:2000-08-13 Middletown, CT | Re: Dial Up? And then you have more than one land line and more than one ISP account. Hell, you can get DSL for like 14.95 can't you? | |
|  |  |  | | Re: Dial Up? said by chris:And then you have more than one land line and more than one ISP account. Hell, you can get DSL for like 14.95 can't you? Chill. It was supposed to be funny? | |
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 HarleyYacYacoPremium join:2001-10-13 Allendale, NJ kudos:1 | Dialup NO ...DSL Yes Hi, If push came to shove DSL would be the choice. I pretty much cut all the movie channels. If they had a lower tier Bundle for Fios. I would "think" about it.  | |
|  |  runnoftPremium join:2003-10-14 Deerfield, IL kudos:1 | Re: Dialup NO ...DSL Yes That's how I feel, as well. I can't imagine going back to dial up even for free unless it was the only option available where I lived. | |
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 danclan join:2005-11-01 Midlothian, VA | You can pry fiber from my ..... hands if only i am dead or destitute....or i have more important things to do like feed my family...i would rather have nothing and use the library than dial-up...nothing wrong with the libraries internet and some have free wi-fi you many use. | |
|  |  | | Re: You can pry fiber from my ..... Agree, with almost 10 devices that go online at any given time, we won't even go back to DSL. | |
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 | | Some people just don't care... There are still people out there that do not care about speed, they only care about price. I don't think the recession is going to drive many people back to dialup but there are plenty of people who will want to stay at a dialup price. Earthlink's $7.95 plan is a short term business plan that's not going to last beyond 5 years. | |
|  DaveDudeNo Fear join:1999-09-01 New Jersey kudos:1 | I miss wildcat For a few years i ran a wildcat bbs, i miss that time. My favorite was granting people extra time. | |
|  |  Simba7 join:2003-03-24 Billings, MT | Re: I miss wildcat I use to run my BBS with Wildcat! v4.20ML10. I miss those days.
Why not resurrect the ol' BBS? Most VoIP lines can handle a 56k connection (I've tested this on a v92 w/v44 modem). I did have to switch to Synchronet since Wildcat's upgrade is ridiculously expensive.
Plus, the speed increase with v.44 made one hell of a difference, even at 33.6kbps. It was definitely worth it.
I'm using a pair of ActionTec EX560LKU USB Modems on my BBS. Very friendly with Linux and runs decent. If lines get even cheaper, I might invest in a v.44 modem pool.
I just hope we can eventually get $5-10 incoming lines.. -- Bresnan 15M/1M|Mine[P4HT 3.2GHz,2GB RAM,2x1TB HDDs,WinXP]|Wife's[P4 2.4GHz,1GB RAM,60GB HDD,WinXP]|Router[2xP3@1GHz,640MB RAM,18GB HDD,Allied Telesyn AT-2560FX,Kingston KNE100TX,2xDigital DE504,Compaq NC3131,iPro/1000DP,Blitz BWI715,Gentoo] | |
|  |  |  ttiiggyPremium join:2001-03-27 Bozeman, MT | Re: I miss wildcat I am stuck BACK on dial-up after getting used to a 6 mb DSL. It suck-eth! | |
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 me1212 join:2008-11-20 Pleasant Hill, MO | No, I will not pay that much EVER again. no matter how little dial-up costs, the land lines out here are $65 after taxes($70 starting thsi month,) which is about what I pay for high speed AND VOIPo Even if it(dail up) was only $8 a month thats $8 more than I pay now, why go back? | |
|  axus join:2001-06-18 Washington, DC Reviews:
·Verizon Online DSL
2 edits | Interesting, I think wholly metered services will stay Anything can go if the situation is bad enough. I already avoid cable/satellite TV; if I had it, it would be the first thing to go.
After that, I would cut expenses in this order: web hosting, going out, paid online games, security system, cell phone, DSL, car expenses, health insurance, dialup, home phone, gas line, mortgage payments, electricity, water. At some point you have to lose your house in foreclosure and move back with your mom 
I think I'd keep DSL if I lost my job, but once the savings started running out it would be next. If I were at the point where I'd need dialup, I'd probably be sick of staying home unemployed and want to get out more. | |
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·AT&T Southeast
| Worthless The press in the country is worthless. They make up stories and ignore anything remotely important that doesn't advance their agenda. They showed this over and over in the last Presidential election. The sad part is that there are still people out there that think the press is an accurate place to get news. There is no reporting of news anymore, just groups that are trying to indoctrinate people into their way of thinking. They all make me sick. | |
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| Re: Worthless said by ender7074:The press in the country is worthless. They make up stories and ignore anything remotely important that doesn't advance their agenda. They showed this over and over in the last Presidential election. The sad part is that there are still people out there that think the press is an accurate place to get news. There is no reporting of news anymore, just groups that are trying to indoctrinate people into their way of thinking. They all make me sick. The Orlando Sentinel is especially bad. These guys have got to be the most biased news outlet ever. I bet united online paid them for this story. Just like the contractors behind sunrail pay them to run stories saying how awesome a train would be, and how the red light camera companies pay them to run stories about how awesome red light cameras are. This newspaper is so ridiculously bad I think it makes a very good case for the fairness doctrine (at least to be applied to this paper). | |
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 | | TRADEWARS!!! OHHH tradwars 2000! I'm up for it but I prefer Renegade BBS over Wildcat  | |
|  |  miscDude join:2005-03-24 Hendersonville, NC | Re: TRADEWARS!!! We could also always go back to Yankee Trader... 
BTW.. for the nostalgia buffs... Google has turned up this link... »www.uci.net/~ice9/ICE9.htm
Think I may hit it up a bit later myself. | |
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 | | No Way You'll have to pry these cable modem from my cold dead hands. -- Reach out and Tap someone! | |
|  |  Titus PulloI came, I saw, I slept join:2004-06-26 kudos:1 Reviews:
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| Re: No Way said by packetscan:You'll have to pry these cable modem from my cold dead hands. I remember the first time I saw that clip-quote. I thought, "not a problem if someone shoots you first!" -- | |
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Everytime I see that Netzero commercial with their president telling people they should switch from broadband to dial-up, I want to reach through the TV screen and choke that SOB to death. | |
|  | | Wow. Maybe because of the recession, we should downgrade to a Wildcat! BBS. Who's up for a game of Trade Wars 2000?
I'm sorry, highly irrelevant but you just took me back in the day. I don't think I was even 5. | |
|  syslockPremium join:2007-02-03 Ann Arbor, MI | No No way. It would cost more just to connect the dial-up line back up.
Running multi line PCBoard was the stuff back in the day. Not anymore!
Would not go back with all the graphics the web pages have today. I could not see my home network running on dial-up today. I could live without TV. Can't function without an internet connection.
It would be easier to find an open hotspot then to go backwards to dialup. Your days are numbered Earthlink. | |
|  gigahurtzPremium join:2001-10-20 Palm Coast, FL | No way! No interest in going back. High speed connections have gotten so cheap now why would you? My current 7Mbps connection is $29.95 a month. | |
|  AVonGaussPremium,MVM join:2007-11-01 Boynton Beach, FL | Uh.... Having had the Comcast HSI out since last Thursday and using GSM EDGE as a backup over the weekend, I can say unequivocally, uh, NO.
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|  icexPremium join:2004-05-22 USA | Try having.. ..cable internet 768/128 that's as fast as 56k dialup. Yeah, colane sucks ass. Go read my review on them for the problems us customers are having. I'm contacting the BBB and I suggest anyone who uses colane do the same.
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