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Skype Hits The iPhone
Will only work when connected to Wi-Fi
by Karl Bode 08:45AM Monday Mar 30 2009
Confirming reports from last week, CNET reports that Skype will be arriving at the iPhone application store sometime on Tuesday. Of course calls on Skype for iPhone only work if you're in range of a Wi-Fi network, a result of AT&T (justly) fearing that VoIP applications could erode traditional wireless minutes revenue (it may just do that anyway). The NY Times seems to suggest that Skype sold AT&T on the idea by citing tests in the UK, where users flocked to a carrier that allowed Skype over smartphone -- increasing revenue for each user because "people were making calls on their cellphones using Skype that high calling rates would have discouraged otherwise." Skype for iPhones should arrive on AT&T Blackberries in May.

Baby steps toward truly open wireless networks continue...

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Pretty smart....

I think it's a good idea to have Skype of the iPhone. It could sway some people that were on the fence.
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Skype for iPhone should probably be available for iPhones

If Skype for iPhone is going to arrive for AT&T Blackberry, I dont think theyre going to have very many users.
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What does this mean...

quote:
Skype for iPhones should arrive on AT&T Blackberries in May.
Does it really mean that Skype for the Blackberry is coming in May?

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Re: What does this mean...

yes. i just checked another blog. skype for blackberry in may

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Working on 3G

The Jail Breakers have a ton of SIP apps working across 3G that are only supposed to work across WiFi, I bet they'll figure out a way to make this one work too.

FUCK iPHONE

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Re: Working on 3G

said by Matt3:

The Jail Breakers have a ton of SIP apps working across 3G that are only supposed to work across WiFi, I bet they'll figure out a way to make this one work too.
Which SIP apps work on 3G. I had only heard of hacked version of fring..but that never seems to work.

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Re: Working on 3G

said by FUCK iPHONE :

said by Matt3:

The Jail Breakers have a ton of SIP apps working across 3G that are only supposed to work across WiFi, I bet they'll figure out a way to make this one work too.
Which SIP apps work on 3G. I had only heard of hacked version of fring..but that never seems to work.
How about this? I bought a Nokia E71 from Amazon.com... $280.. cheaper than an iPhone. Right out of the box there is no AT&T crap I will never use on it. Instead of paying $10/month for AT&T Navigator which requires cell phone reception, I bought Garmin XT for $99 one time fee, faster because the maps are on the phone and don't need to be downloaded.

It has a built in SIP client (unlike my previous AT&T-branded Smartphone) and it works perfectly over 3G.

No jailbreak, no hacking, just a good phone to use. On top of that I don't have to trick AT&T so they don't charge me $30 for an internet plan that is the EXACT same thing as the $15 plan, only because my phone has a certain serial #.

I think there is Skype for the E71, but I don't use Skype.

Oh and Fring never worked well for me on the Windows phones. Poor/choppy audio on the 3G and even WiFi. Sound only came out through the speakerphone (TOTALLY unusable). I think my Thinkpad T20 in 2000 on random WiFi hotspots got better VoIP quality than any AT&T cripple crap can do.
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Re: Working on 3G

said by joako:

How about this? I bought a Nokia E71 from Amazon.com... $280.. cheaper than an iPhone. Right out of the box there is no AT&T crap I will never use on it. Instead of paying $10/month for AT&T Navigator which requires cell phone reception, I bought Garmin XT for $99 one time fee, faster because the maps are on the phone and don't need to be downloaded.
Your rant would be somewhat valid if I didn't pay $99 for my iPhone and it wasn't selling for $199 from AT&T.

And what in the world do you mean "AT&T crap?" The iPhone isn't loaded with ANYTHING related to AT&T other than the little AT&T logo in the status bar.

/me thinks you're ranting because you're just Anti-iPhone ... you don't actually know anything about it and have never used one.

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said by FUCK iPHONE :

said by Matt3:

The Jail Breakers have a ton of SIP apps working across 3G that are only supposed to work across WiFi, I bet they'll figure out a way to make this one work too.
Which SIP apps work on 3G. I had only heard of hacked version of fring..but that never seems to work.
Siphon. I use it to connect to our work PBX all the time across 3G.

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Skype - Cool I guess

I guess it is cool but it really doesn't change anything for me. My wife has an iPhone and I have a iPod touch but I have been using Skype on my touch for months via the fring application. I can't see why I need the Skype application as Fring works fine and I can hook it up to other VOIP clients as well.

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What is this, the iPhone blog?

If the premise of posting this article is that this is a step towards "open networks", then it would have been wise to include the fact that the vast amount of windows mobile phones out there have had free skype-skype capability for years: »www.skype.com/download/skype/windowsmobile/

No mention of that, plus the addendum that Skype for Blackberries will be out sooner than Skype for iPhone really makes me begin to wonder about the objectivity of this site.
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Re: What is this, the iPhone blog?

Objectivity? Here?! HAHAHAHA

You must be newer then your 2001 tag implies.

said by tiger72:

If the premise of posting this article is that this is a step towards "open networks", then it would have been wise to include the fact that the vast amount of windows mobile phones out there have had free skype-skype capability for years: »www.skype.com/download/skype/windowsmobile/

No mention of that, plus the addendum that Skype for Blackberries will be out sooner than Skype for iPhone really makes me begin to wonder about the objectivity of this site.
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With the iPhone, AT&T has the power (through Apple) to ban anyone without a jailbreak from using an app that it feels might compete with its cellphone service. That all the previous VoIP apps for iPhone never managed to get in the store isn't a coincidence.

The BlackBerry doesn't have these sort of problems, other than the microphone API being depreciated for questionable reasons.

So, this isn't particularly over-iPhone-centric since, unlike other platforms, this is actually something special. Which is extremely lame.

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said by tiger72:

If the premise of posting this article is that this is a step towards "open networks", then it would have been wise to include the fact that the vast amount of windows mobile phones out there have had free skype-skype capability for years: »www.skype.com/download/skype/windowsmobile/

No mention of that, plus the addendum that Skype for Blackberries will be out sooner than Skype for iPhone really makes me begin to wonder about the objectivity of this site.
Don't like the content? Don't read it. Fairly simple if you ask me.
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Re: What is this, the iPhone blog?

one could say the same about your own post.

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Re: What is this, the iPhone blog?

said by tiger72:

one could say the same about your own post.
Right. Don't read my post either.
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Proprietary Apple - the alternate 1984

This is the problem with Apple control over the apps. They say what apps you can and cannot use or how you can use it. Imagine if Microsoft tried that with Windows.

Am looking forward to the much more open Palm Pre very soon.

No Apple for me! They have become the very 1984 George Orwellian world they have previously chastised.
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wifi is fine, 3G not really ready for voice

It is fine that it only works on wifi since today's 3G networks have too much latency for good VOIP over the 3G connection.

The one benefit this will have is to make the iPhone more corporate friendly as many companies are moving to using Skype for their phone services (www.skypeforsip.com for more info). This will make this easier and help control costs.

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Paris Hilton as the iPhone Celebrity Spokesperson

Apple should make Paris Hilton the celebrity spokesperson for the iPhone. It seems fitting to have someone pitching the thing who is moderately sexy yet with no new or unique talent.

Seriously, why do people love this uber-locked device?

Of course calls on Skype for iPhone only work if you're in range of a Wi-Fi network
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Re: Paris Hilton as the iPhone Celebrity Spokesperson

said by funchords:

Apple should make Paris Hilton the celebrity spokesperson for the iPhone. It seems fitting to have someone pitching the thing who is moderately sexy yet with no new or unique talent.

Seriously, why do people love this uber-locked device?

Of course calls on Skype for iPhone only work if you're in range of a Wi-Fi network
"Of course," indeed!
Simple for me. I carried a phone, and I carried an iPod. Just like Reeses Peanut Butter cups, it is two great tastes that taste great together.
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Is this a big deal?

SKYPE has had java clients for their service for a long time. This is important news, but not earth shattering (except for the fact that APPLE didn't block a voip application).
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Big deal

People didn't need to have a "Jailbroken" iPhone to get VOIP. The applications Fringe and Nimbuzz can be downloaded right out of iTunes and they fully support VOIP through Skype as well as several other clients.
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Open wireless network?

Not hardly! Skype for iPhones is good because it means people can make calls at their home any time to other Skype users, without cost, and without sitting at a computer. Skype becomes more powerful with less incentive to be "open". You can't just make your own Skype compatible application.

The next step is to have "phones" with WiFi, that can install applications without restriction (this is the heart of open), including VoIP. Basically computers in a cell phone package, that don't have a cell phone plan. I think the Android platform is closer to this than the iPhone, but Microsoft is even closer, because they have software compatibility. MS just can't seem to do phones right.

It'd be bad business for carriers to sell something that doesn't require them, we shouldn't expect it to come from them. Probably Dell, a netbook maker, or former PDA maker.

The hardest step is network neutral universal wireless internet coverage. The only way to get that is to have so much demand for it, that the market can't ignore the demand. Google seems to be the only company with the will to make it happen, and they don't have enough cash to do whatever they want. Also, we need the current internet to be network neutral if we want the future internet to be network neutral.

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Re: Open wireless network?

As others have said fring has worked on the iphone for a long time for use with Skype, SIP and over both WIFI and 3G.

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Buggy

Pretty good for a first attempt, but the app still needs work.
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Re: Buggy

said by elias:

Pretty good for a first attempt, but the app still needs work.
+1. I got a LOT of cutting out. It's not as bad as some of the other iPhone apps as far as latency goes, but it's still not very usable for more than a minute or two. Still, I wont be going back to Fring as it blows big time. Nimbuzz is better, but not by much.