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When 8Mbps Is Really 896kbps
British Telecom employs new throttles from 5PM to 12AM....
by Karl Bode Tuesday 02-Jun-2009 tags: dsl · business · bandwidth
Britain's largest ISP British Telecom has been accused of throttling popular video services like YouTube and the BBC's iPlayer without bothering to inform anyone. Users who sign up for the company's 8Mbps DSL service now find their service throttled back to 896kbps between 5PM and midnight with a specific focus on reducing video content consumption. If you recall, British Telecom is the same carrier that's been hemming and hawing over upgrading their infrastructure to fiber, putting on a show about network upgrades while milking copper for another decade. They've also been part of the whining in the UK by ISPs who think content companies should be subsidizing carrier network builds.

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amungus
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That's about useless

Might as well go for a cheaper plan if that's what they're doing.

Between 5pm & midnight - in other words, when most people get home and actually use their internet connection...

Wow, that's a pretty mean thing to do to those customers. And it's DSL too, surely the network can handle better speeds than 1Mbps for most folks. Sad.

ThrowDemsOut
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BT throttling total bandwidth & not specific apps

BT:
"But in a statement BT said it was not capping speeds down to 700kbps on iPlayer.

The firm said: "Where we manage bandwidth, we do so in order to optimise the experience for all customers, whatever they want to do online."
While it won't make users feel any better, BT denies they are throttling YouTube or the BBC's iPlayer, but are slowing down bandwidth speeds across the board during prime hours due to limited infrastructure.

Sounds like the BBC is trying to bring in a net neutrality boogeyman to put pressure on BT, even though that appears to be a bogus charge.
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powerhog
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Re: BT throttling total bandwidth & not specific apps

quote:
BT has said its speed limit is explained on its website, on a page describing its Total Broadband Fair Usage policy.

The clause in question says: "We do limit the speed of all video streaming to 896Kbps on our Option 1 product, during peak times only."
You must have missed this quote where they state that they ARE capping iPlayer and all other video streams.

No, they are not capping at 700kbps... they are capping at 896kbbps.

Ignite
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said by ThrowDemsOut:

BT:
"But in a statement BT said it was not capping speeds down to 700kbps on iPlayer.

The firm said: "Where we manage bandwidth, we do so in order to optimise the experience for all customers, whatever they want to do online."
While it won't make users feel any better, BT denies they are throttling YouTube or the BBC's iPlayer, but are slowing down bandwidth speeds across the board during prime hours due to limited infrastructure.

Sounds like the BBC is trying to bring in a net neutrality boogeyman to put pressure on BT, even though that appears to be a bogus charge.
No it says specifically on the BT website that they shape streaming media to 896kbps.

tacoma
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You only get full throttle for 4 hours?

5 to 12AM *

ropeguru
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Re: You only get full throttle for 4 hours?

It is supposed to be 5PM to 12AM. So that means it is throttled for 7 hours in the evenings and full BW the rest of the day.

The article title incorrectly states 12PM instead of 12AM.

tacoma
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Re: You only get full throttle for 4 hours?

Thanks for stating what I said so eloquently.
hroo772
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Primetime

Think about coming home from work, your stressed, all you really wanna do is relax. Getting home to piss poor internet, really isn't gonna set your mood right.

mrkevin
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Re: Primetime

or:
Download all day and enjoy when you get home.
or:
get a night job, then when you get home you can relax using your full connection
emoci

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Bits and bytes

As someone who has to suffer through DSL I couldn't help but notice:

896 kbytes/sec x 8 bits/byte = 7.168Mbits/sec

7.2 Mbits seems close to the advertised 8MBits anyways ...I don't dispute they may be throttling...but any chance the title is a misunderstanding of bits and bytes....

powerhog
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Re: Bits and bytes

little 'b' = bits (kbps)
big 'B' = bytes (KBps)

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Re: Bits and bytes

its kbits when talking in broadband term of course rarely does anyone talk in kbytes on the internet
50mb=bits in most cases... unless you're referrring to harddrive speed
8mbit per sec
or 896kbit or kbps
like mp3 128kbps
anyone who think 128kbps is 128kb/sec is very confused or just trying to mislead others

rs

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Re: Bits and bytes

128kbps = 128kb/sec
128kbps != 128kB/sec

Hpower
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Man that sucks. Looks like they really need to upgrade their network.
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DataRiker
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WTF?

Why is the internet going backwards?

major marco
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Re: WTF?

said by DataRiker:

Why is the internet going backwards?
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MacAlert

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ha

Sounds like something Time Warner would do.

ohreally

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Hmm...

Quite why BT is worried about capacity, I don't know. They own the network, why can't they provide enough capacity?

At least those affected by BT's traffic shaping can move to another ISP who uses BT's DSL network (hundreds of ISPs do this). There is no traffic shaping imposed on them by BT, and service is generally good (if you choose a decent ISP).
patcat88

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Re: Hmm...

said by ohreally :

At least those affected by BT's traffic shaping can move to another ISP who uses BT's DSL network (hundreds of ISPs do this). There is no traffic shaping imposed on them by BT, and service is generally good (if you choose a decent ISP).
Wait until BT hears about Bell Canada.

a333
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Re: Hmm...

shhhhh...... don't give them ideas.
freejazz_RdJ

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Re: Hmm...

I can't believe Americans know of the horror of Bell Canada. Imagine Verizon before Fios, and Fairpoint/frontier right now.

DrModem
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If you can't support that speed all the time...

Don't offer it.

atmoshericrail

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Network Neutrality

BT or any other ISP should not offer speeds up to 8 Mbps if in reality most of the time the DSL line only supports 1 Mbps, or in my case sometimes only 0.2 Mbps. Why doesn't the feeble regulator do something useful for once?

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